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jv209 ago

you guys need to calm down and just be happy that pewdiepie is redpilling his audience. you don't need to overwhelm people who are just waking up to some of the most fucked up shit. if they really are awoken, they'll go searching for the truth and eventually find out one way or the other. I'm not trying to promote passivity, I'm just saying moderation is important.

8toborrm ago

Piss off

Edit: I disagree with you

jv209 ago

you seem unhinged which just puts people off from our side. you guys are going to scare the common folk away by being overly-aggressive. it's an extremely touchy subject yet some of you guys seem to not get that and think just autistically blurting out pizzagate out of context is going to do jack shit besides make us look desperate.

Freemasonsrus ago

See this link I just added above: http://www.alternet.org/media/owner-washington-post-doing-business-cia-while-keeping-his-readers-dark#.WKXthOe4-4Q.facebook

I think it'd be a better first step with #followthemoney

8toborrm ago

That's funny, I never even suggested how I propose to attach the pizzagate tag to perdiedie. I haven't done anything or suggested action that is unhinged in any way.

Spreading awareness is a good thing.

jv209 ago

so why come at me like I've said something offensive or wrong when I just want to have nuance to things instead of trying to drop bowling ball sized red pills onto kids who are just coming onto our side? The legitimacy of the movement will come. the evidence is on our side, we don't need to be overly-aggressive and scare people away.

8toborrm ago

You're right, my reply to you was childish, I was wrong, I apologize.

jv209 ago

I appreciate that. Sorry if I'm coming across as holier-than-thou, but I'm just stoked pewd's has helped us out this much. if some people want to take advantage of this situation to spread pedogate, I get it, but I just think it's too much, too soon for anyone who is really being red-pilled.

8toborrm ago

Nah not at all. It was a fair BS call on your part. Absolutely fair.

Yes, it's an invasive way to spread information. But I have recently started believing more that anything that needs to be spread, should be spread without qualms of appropriateness or politeness, especially on the internet.

The currency of the moment is memes. Attaching pg to pewdie spreads awareness that the meme is still alive and well, which consciously or subconsciously sparks curiosity. Genuine curiosity is one of the first stages in the redpilling of a normie. Especially when, like you said, the evidence is on our side, genuine curiosity is the fish hook that will tear them out of the water.

In execution I personally would advocate for an approach that casts a wide net, by attaching to this trending topic, then simply linking to a slow, fact-filled, non-sensational, informative video regarding the questions that some of our leads have prompted. In this way it is both aggressive and conservative. Aggressive in the spread of the meme, and conservative in it's claims and assumptions. Due to the nature of pg, once curiosity is sparked, it is next best to further stoke the curiosity by simply presenting the facts of the evidence. For example, to introduce a theory about Alifantis' exact function to a normie is innapropriate. All speculation is innapropriate at this stage.

The point isn't to devise memes that convince people pg is real, and the crimes have been committed. The point is to devise memes that spark, stoke, and encourage the proposal of honest questions from rational minds.