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bopper ago

Robert Steele says one thing, Steve Pieczenik says another thing (about why Flynn was ousted). Maybe they need to get together and compare notes. Unless I am proposing a false dichotomy here, in other words, can they both be right? This is more of a question of who to believe rather than a defense of Pence. You feel me?

kestrel9 ago

per your request ;) Piezcenik mentions the "Triumverate" including Mattis, Pompeo as part of the enduring inner group, whereas Flynn was not necessarily (according to Dr. P) intended to be long term. It's hard to believe that Flynn's job was planned to be THAT short lived, and Trump's statement in the press conference regarding his reasons for not keeping Flynn is consistent with his management style. Flynn's saying "I don't remember", (my dog ate the homework), was enough for Trump to cut him loose, especially when he perhaps had Ret. Vice Adm. Harward as a potential pick waiting in the wings. Piezcenik's "it was all according to plan" is a stretch for me, but the outcome may have achieved the goal nonetheless, i.e., now there is a justified public reason to tear up the floorboards and expose the leakers of the NSA, CIA etc. and whoever else needs to be exposed. Because so many are trying to isolate Trump, and because I believe Pence definitely helped Trump win via the VP debate performance, it's hard for me to doubt Pence's integrity at this point in time. If Pence was a Neocon plant, why not just sabotage Trump during before the election? Instead, Pence was a great asset to Trump's campaign, even to the point of alienating his former "best friend" Flake. GOP was blindsided by Trump's win, whatever their expectations of Pence may have been, winning the election doesn't appear to be one of them.

Fatsack ago

Pretty sure Pieczenik is a double agent for Kissinger and the CFR. Is background is so cringy. I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him.

bopper ago

And Steele?

Fatsack ago

not aware of steele, link plz?

Fatsack ago

Oh yeah, I know this guys face. Yeah I tend to believe him over Pieczenik. Pieczeniks pieces were over-produced (not his interviews, the stuff from his channel) he uses overly verbose patriotic language, and the biggest tell is that Pieczenik is telling everyone 'not to worry, everythings fine, don't do anything, the intelligence communities handling everything, everythings going according to plan, the coup is already over, they're just squealing'. Pieczenik is trying to lull people into complacency, ala a 'Limited Hangout'.

bopper ago

Yeah, the overproduced pieces were weird, kind of smacked of MSM. Thanks for the info I appreciate it. Nothing to worry about?? I wish :)

Fatsack ago

Yeah. The stuff thats most tempting to believe, or the stuff that you most want to hear, you got to be most suspicious of. It's like when Joe Peschy invites you at to celebrate, and that caps you in the back of the head, rolls you up in a carpet, and dumps you in the river.

bopper ago

Confirmation bias (never had it :)