I also add that Catholic Sex Abuse and Saville at the BBC and PRIME MINISTER Heath were all also considered "ridiculous" too. And well it was true.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28189906
I show people some of the gross Instagram images. And I show them the pizza on dominos and heating the pool emails directly on Wikileaks and ask them what they think it means?
They will usually agree with me that it is at least CREEPY!
Cracked.com and others are taking a big risk by publishing mockery of Pizzagate. If Alefantis and Podesta are charged and convicted they will have a serious reputation problem. Note silence from Matt Drudge, Rush Limbaugh and many others. I believe that if the FBI begins arresting politicians, the silence will end, and it won't be be so lonely on Pizzagate side any more.
Also, lest your friend be a democrat who thinks this is a right wing witch hunt...point him/her in the direction of (2 time Obama voter)George Webb's videos.
I realize she is a lib...but I agree with her on this. Also think it's important for others to be aware that pizzagate/pedogate is NOT a partisan issue. If Dems see that their own party recognizes the evil, perhaps they will be more open to considering it. Good to point out the GOP members who are questionable. Franklin Scandal goes back to (R) Bush. (R)Hastert sentenced. (R)Scalia possibly implicated. We need everyone on board. People resist because they think pizzagate is a right wing witch hunt. It's not.
I posted this to prepare those of us who believe this is real for some of the stuff people will use to discredit us. Many people are not as curious or skeptical as those of us who frequent this site, and when presented with an easy to digest article like this trash, they believe it and spread it. Those people are our family and friends, and it is our responsibility to help them realize they're being manipulated.
That is pathetic at best. Tell your friend do his/her own homework. Here are a few links to pass on. Research both perspectives and see what resonates. Anyone who honestly researches will acknowledge the truth. And remember, you can only lead a horse to water...
the Scooby Doo nature of the investigation is why people don't take it seriously
"I found this symbol on something so it must be related to pedophilia"
"there's this code-word that means child porn and someone said it so it must be a code"
The emails from wikileaks are real. No doubt about it. But the sources for the 'code-words' is sketchy.
Most, if not all, of the emails are innocuous or poorly worded ala:
Ps. Do you think I’ll do better playing dominos on cheese than on pasta?
which, as anyone who has ever heard bad dad jokes from boomers, is insinuating that cheese or pasta is a performance enhancing substance for playing dominos. har har har. real knee-slapper
The most semi-believable evidence is a few of the emails and instagram posts. Connections to Hastert and Epstein are also semi-believable.
Most people zone out when they start spouting off about devil worshippers and spirit cooking and moloch and shit.
"spouting off about devil worshippers and spirit cooking and moloch and shit."
By that do you mean including additional facts that make Podesta, Alefantis, and their associates look absolutely creepy and weird? Alefantis and Podesta both have connections to Marina Abramovic, and she's a kooky ass weird bitch. That's a fact. Why not point it out?
Because it sounds ridiculous and is easily brushed aside as art, however weird.
Agreed this is weird but there are plenty of very normal people who enjoy death metal with similar imagery. Granted they don't have the artists into their houses for performances, but that's probably because the opportunity never arose.
If you 'knew' someone was an alien who murdered people to harvest their organs, you wouldn't start with the alien part. You'd start with the murdering part.
So what do you hit him back with? I've yet to have anyone try to dismiss my accusations with anything but blind denial so I have not had to try to disprove the false narrative yet.
I pointed him here first. Then pointed out the convicted pedophiles (Hastert, Eppstein) who run closely in circles with Clintons/Podestas. It's hard not to sound crazed when discussing this, but I try to be fact based and not digress to speculation. That is the tough thing about winning people over into the "wow, this might not be so crazy" camp; appearing to be sane and grounded in reality yourself. I think one of the methods used to discredit this is by introducing crazy theories interwoven between the alarming evidence.
It's hard to give a short summary that proves it. You really have to link all the previous pedo scandals then point out the codes and inappropriate Instagram pics across all these accounts to start convincing someone. And depending on how brainwashed they are they will still deny it.
The person who does an excellent job of presenting facts without sounding crazed is George Webb. He is very "matter of fact" about all of the evil and corruption. But I'm guessing anyone who dismisses pizzagate so easily doesn't have the will or intellectual capacity to digest Webb's research. He is the most undervalued YouTuber and Tweeter online. He is spilling everything.
Everything You Need To Know About Pizzagate (Is Insane)
"On this month's live podcast, Jack O'Brien and the Cracked staff welcome Dr.", "Christopher Ryan, podcaster and author of Sex At Dawn, onto the show for a lively Valentine's Day discussion about love, sex, why our genitals are where they are, and why we're more like chimps and bonobos than you think."
sunshine702 ago
I also add that Catholic Sex Abuse and Saville at the BBC and PRIME MINISTER Heath were all also considered "ridiculous" too. And well it was true. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28189906
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2645730/Shocking-evidence-reveals-Jimmy-Savile-abused-500-people-youngest-victim-just-two-years-old.html
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/03/former-british-pm-edward-heath-investigated-for-child-sex-abuse.html
Yes it SOUNDs ridiculous but it DOES HAPPEN!
sunshine702 ago
I show people some of the gross Instagram images. And I show them the pizza on dominos and heating the pool emails directly on Wikileaks and ask them what they think it means?
They will usually agree with me that it is at least CREEPY!
WizardEyes33 ago
Anyone else find it funny they reworded the handkerchief email in one of the pictures so it doesn't sound so weird anymore?
Therealnickcage ago
I noticed that. I was wondering if this was a different email from the one talking about pizza related map handkerchief...
Clinker ago
Cracked.com and others are taking a big risk by publishing mockery of Pizzagate. If Alefantis and Podesta are charged and convicted they will have a serious reputation problem. Note silence from Matt Drudge, Rush Limbaugh and many others. I believe that if the FBI begins arresting politicians, the silence will end, and it won't be be so lonely on Pizzagate side any more.
IPleadThe2nd ago
Looks like your friend is a smug brainwashed liberal, and it's time for you to have one less friend!
TruthTrumps ago
Also, lest your friend be a democrat who thinks this is a right wing witch hunt...point him/her in the direction of (2 time Obama voter)George Webb's videos.
https://www.youtube.com/user/georgwebb
Also, check out DEMocrat Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney's tweets and YouTube videos questioning Rumsfeld.
https://twitter.com/cynthiamckinney/status/830108478328836096
https://twitter.com/cynthiamckinney/status/828751344219586560
https://twitter.com/cynthiamckinney/status/827854574455136256
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnVnX3qUBqg
Then check out the Franklin Scandal.
Helloooooooo? Wake up!!!
listentoreason2017 ago
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2016/11/academic-absurdity-of-the-week-cynthia-mckinney-phd.php
TruthTrumps ago
I realize she is a lib...but I agree with her on this. Also think it's important for others to be aware that pizzagate/pedogate is NOT a partisan issue. If Dems see that their own party recognizes the evil, perhaps they will be more open to considering it. Good to point out the GOP members who are questionable. Franklin Scandal goes back to (R) Bush. (R)Hastert sentenced. (R)Scalia possibly implicated. We need everyone on board. People resist because they think pizzagate is a right wing witch hunt. It's not.
listentoreason2017 ago
I'm saying she's a crazy person.
Hard to believe it's not a partisan witch hunt when Epstein just as easily traces to Trump as Clinton.
http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/09/the-friendship-between-trump-and-a-billionaire-pedophile-that-nobody-wants-to-talk-about/
Therealnickcage ago
I posted this to prepare those of us who believe this is real for some of the stuff people will use to discredit us. Many people are not as curious or skeptical as those of us who frequent this site, and when presented with an easy to digest article like this trash, they believe it and spread it. Those people are our family and friends, and it is our responsibility to help them realize they're being manipulated.
TruthTrumps ago
That is pathetic at best. Tell your friend do his/her own homework. Here are a few links to pass on. Research both perspectives and see what resonates. Anyone who honestly researches will acknowledge the truth. And remember, you can only lead a horse to water...
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw8pBi62eGf-dFlxcjRYWWxLU28/view
http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=60679
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5jznpc/according_to_the_fbi_pedophilia_and_child_sex/
http://haleybear86.blogspot.com/2016_12_01_archive.html
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/750681/Child-migrants-people-smuggling-organs-mafia-gangs-Africa-European-Union-refugee-asylum
https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/jessa-dillow-crisp-i-remember-the-smells-the-sight/
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1497611
listentoreason2017 ago
the Scooby Doo nature of the investigation is why people don't take it seriously
"I found this symbol on something so it must be related to pedophilia" "there's this code-word that means child porn and someone said it so it must be a code"
The emails from wikileaks are real. No doubt about it. But the sources for the 'code-words' is sketchy. Most, if not all, of the emails are innocuous or poorly worded ala:
Ps. Do you think I’ll do better playing dominos on cheese than on pasta?
which, as anyone who has ever heard bad dad jokes from boomers, is insinuating that cheese or pasta is a performance enhancing substance for playing dominos. har har har. real knee-slapper
The most semi-believable evidence is a few of the emails and instagram posts. Connections to Hastert and Epstein are also semi-believable.
Most people zone out when they start spouting off about devil worshippers and spirit cooking and moloch and shit.
Orlando_Kek_Follower ago
"spouting off about devil worshippers and spirit cooking and moloch and shit." By that do you mean including additional facts that make Podesta, Alefantis, and their associates look absolutely creepy and weird? Alefantis and Podesta both have connections to Marina Abramovic, and she's a kooky ass weird bitch. That's a fact. Why not point it out?
listentoreason2017 ago
Because it sounds ridiculous and is easily brushed aside as art, however weird.
Agreed this is weird but there are plenty of very normal people who enjoy death metal with similar imagery. Granted they don't have the artists into their houses for performances, but that's probably because the opportunity never arose.
If you 'knew' someone was an alien who murdered people to harvest their organs, you wouldn't start with the alien part. You'd start with the murdering part.
archons ago
So what do you hit him back with? I've yet to have anyone try to dismiss my accusations with anything but blind denial so I have not had to try to disprove the false narrative yet.
Therealnickcage ago
I pointed him here first. Then pointed out the convicted pedophiles (Hastert, Eppstein) who run closely in circles with Clintons/Podestas. It's hard not to sound crazed when discussing this, but I try to be fact based and not digress to speculation. That is the tough thing about winning people over into the "wow, this might not be so crazy" camp; appearing to be sane and grounded in reality yourself. I think one of the methods used to discredit this is by introducing crazy theories interwoven between the alarming evidence.
archons ago
It's hard to give a short summary that proves it. You really have to link all the previous pedo scandals then point out the codes and inappropriate Instagram pics across all these accounts to start convincing someone. And depending on how brainwashed they are they will still deny it.
TruthTrumps ago
The person who does an excellent job of presenting facts without sounding crazed is George Webb. He is very "matter of fact" about all of the evil and corruption. But I'm guessing anyone who dismisses pizzagate so easily doesn't have the will or intellectual capacity to digest Webb's research. He is the most undervalued YouTuber and Tweeter online. He is spilling everything.
derram ago
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"On this month's live podcast, Jack O'Brien and the Cracked staff welcome Dr.", "Christopher Ryan, podcaster and author of Sex At Dawn, onto the show for a lively Valentine's Day discussion about love, sex, why our genitals are where they are, and why we're more like chimps and bonobos than you think."
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