I will gladly admit when/if I'm wrong, but the fact that this came from a completely random photo from a completely anonymous person on 4chan and it blew up so fast -- it feels like a set up to me.
Just be extra vigilant when sourcing/verifying things, please.
Alright I agree with this because one of the instagram accounts linked straight up had comments like "glad the walnut art is returning" and "your kids totally think you're nuts ;)" which I will say seems damning; just be careful of the dots you're connecting because clearly someone is starting to worry and they're doing the best they can to discredit anything which could lead to everything by any means. "In plain sight", we know how this works and just make sure everything is credible to a T.
This is all good and I think we're getting there, I'm just afraid that they'll find a way aside from douchey-tweets to make this irrelevant because it's astoundingly serious and important.
I know I'm new here but Reddit was pissing me off lol so hi!
Late to the party but after reviewing most of this, you are probably right. Theres a top level comment above yours listing instagram accounts that are related. Pretty much all of them started posting after Pizzagate blew up.
Also, the sick Pizza references in the mass Media, go back at least one year before "Pizzagate" broke.
I find it interesting that people who could never accept the "fake events" which came fast and furious under Obama, immediatley claimed this was another fake or staged "event" .. Yet had never made that claim around the authentic faked events..
The claim is just used to divert people. If you look into fake events you'd realize they never do "this good of a job" faking the real. The actors are way too shitty.. do you know what it would cost to get an actor to play Alephantix or Pedesta?
And in any case, what would be the motive? To bust themselves.. ? "Pizzagaters" have no cred in the mainstream anyway.
Any way, at least one image of the group , I know did not originate before "Pizzagate" broke. I saw it on a card advertising an Art Show.. The one with the young boys in underwear standing around the candle as if in a trance.
Not everyone into this kind of Art is a perp, certainly. But they might all be related; blood - line, business . or otherwise.
This did not start after Pizzagate broke.. I know one picture I seen way earlier.. Stuff like this areound the Roberta's pizza, which Clinton husband and wife visited and JZee, and Benonce and Bradjellina. Why would they visit that dump. It's next to a meat packing plant and to numerous truck stops. This type of art is massive around there. In a mall nearby , which used to be a cloth factory, there was "Art" some time ago [before Pizza broke] which consisted of what looked like a dead body wrapped in celopane and hung from the rafters like a side of meat.
Hi memegod, I was the one who found and posted drawbertson's account and that photo in particular in the /pol/ thread. It was directly linked to Manhattan Knights. As in, he had liked and commented on photos they and other associated accounts posted.
What am I looking at in the first link? I just see an ordering page?
EDIT: nvm, I see what you meant, the reason for returning an item.
This excuse could be used on every instagram pic of Comet Ping Pong and friends that we have seen so far in the last 3 months...
Yes, which is exactly why I also said to keep digging, just don't make any knee-jerk assumptions. People should be doing that anyways, but I'm always cautious of new leads because it could be a third party trying to get this sub shut down.
I don't know if it is a set up or not, however, I've seen several photos that, while certainly creepy or weird, don't necessarily point to them doing anything wrong. I think it's still worth digging, just be careful and don't make any kneejerk assumptions.
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memegod420 ago
I will gladly admit when/if I'm wrong, but the fact that this came from a completely random photo from a completely anonymous person on 4chan and it blew up so fast -- it feels like a set up to me.
Just be extra vigilant when sourcing/verifying things, please.
Lalalola89 ago
Alright I agree with this because one of the instagram accounts linked straight up had comments like "glad the walnut art is returning" and "your kids totally think you're nuts ;)" which I will say seems damning; just be careful of the dots you're connecting because clearly someone is starting to worry and they're doing the best they can to discredit anything which could lead to everything by any means. "In plain sight", we know how this works and just make sure everything is credible to a T.
This is all good and I think we're getting there, I'm just afraid that they'll find a way aside from douchey-tweets to make this irrelevant because it's astoundingly serious and important.
I know I'm new here but Reddit was pissing me off lol so hi!
The_Bohemian ago
Late to the party but after reviewing most of this, you are probably right. Theres a top level comment above yours listing instagram accounts that are related. Pretty much all of them started posting after Pizzagate blew up.
samhara ago
Also, the sick Pizza references in the mass Media, go back at least one year before "Pizzagate" broke.
I find it interesting that people who could never accept the "fake events" which came fast and furious under Obama, immediatley claimed this was another fake or staged "event" .. Yet had never made that claim around the authentic faked events..
The claim is just used to divert people. If you look into fake events you'd realize they never do "this good of a job" faking the real. The actors are way too shitty.. do you know what it would cost to get an actor to play Alephantix or Pedesta?
And in any case, what would be the motive? To bust themselves.. ? "Pizzagaters" have no cred in the mainstream anyway.
Any way, at least one image of the group , I know did not originate before "Pizzagate" broke. I saw it on a card advertising an Art Show.. The one with the young boys in underwear standing around the candle as if in a trance.
Not everyone into this kind of Art is a perp, certainly. But they might all be related; blood - line, business . or otherwise.
samhara ago
This did not start after Pizzagate broke.. I know one picture I seen way earlier.. Stuff like this areound the Roberta's pizza, which Clinton husband and wife visited and JZee, and Benonce and Bradjellina. Why would they visit that dump. It's next to a meat packing plant and to numerous truck stops. This type of art is massive around there. In a mall nearby , which used to be a cloth factory, there was "Art" some time ago [before Pizza broke] which consisted of what looked like a dead body wrapped in celopane and hung from the rafters like a side of meat.
ConcernedParent2 ago
I agree. I found some photos that look bad for sure, but I also get the same sense as you.
redditsuckz ago
The "Dead on Arrival" is from Manhatten Knights Clothing shop Website;
http://archive.is/qmK4I
This is their Tumbler page - a link from their clothing webpage;
http://manhattanknights.tumblr.com/
http://archive.is/LZcs3
Tumbler page has existed at least over a year;
https://web.archive.org/web/20150717132020/http://manhattanknights.tumblr.com/
This excuse could be used on every instagram pic of Comet Ping Pong and friends that we have seen so far in the last 3 months...
gardenofbacchus ago
Hi memegod, I was the one who found and posted drawbertson's account and that photo in particular in the /pol/ thread. It was directly linked to Manhattan Knights. As in, he had liked and commented on photos they and other associated accounts posted.
ConcernedParent2 ago
What am I looking at in the first link? I just see an ordering page?
EDIT: nvm, I see what you meant, the reason for returning an item.
Yes, which is exactly why I also said to keep digging, just don't make any knee-jerk assumptions. People should be doing that anyways, but I'm always cautious of new leads because it could be a third party trying to get this sub shut down.
PizzaGateDiscovery ago
What kind of setup? The pics and comments on the children are terrible, let alone the adult porn pics.
ConcernedParent2 ago
I don't know if it is a set up or not, however, I've seen several photos that, while certainly creepy or weird, don't necessarily point to them doing anything wrong. I think it's still worth digging, just be careful and don't make any kneejerk assumptions.