He/she deletes my posts all the time. The rules are ridiculous. We're adults & capable of deciding for ourselves what we believe or not. This authoritarian style of moderating leads me to think this a forum to draw out & censor pizzagate investigators.
No I really don't think that's the case, genuinely I think most of the mods are really trying to make sure that things on the hot page are relevant and won't put off any newcomers, that there aren't things not useful/evidenced etc taking up space where a good post with lots of leads and sources could be, and the really tricky tasks of trying to make sure that there isn't disinformation/distracting stuff being posted by the 'other side' in order to muddy the waters and lead the investigation in the wrong direction. It's actually quite a difficult job, especially considering what's at stake and the fact that this platform is quite visible so there is a responsibility on some level to try to ensure that good, solid, backed up information is up front so that people can't just come here point at something there's no source for and say 'see? they're just making this stuff up' and then go away and tell everyone it's all been 'debunked.'
I think the mods are trying their best, and really if you look at the things that M_F has deleted, they do all break the rules, and the rules were decided as a collective to be for the best of the investigation. The fact it's so hard to know exactly who to trust makes it harder - e.g. this post from FBIAnon could be a distraction/disinformation tactic to send people off hunting non-existent leads etc, it's just so hard to tell without proof. But I can definitely see the argument the other way too, and that people should be able to work out what is and isn't real and down vote the crap and up vote the good stuff, but that still doesn't get around the problem of how it's presented to the sceptics who are wandering over here out of doubtful curiosity... So basically, it's complicated and difficult and I don't think that deleting this is evidence of trying to draw out and censor investigators.
You're making out like it's black and white - if the mods make a decision I disagree with then they are shills... when in reality they just have a different idea of what is the best thing to do given all the circumstances and in light of their previous experience. It's fair enough to get annoyed and disagree and state your case, I just think it's completely unhelpful to decide it means they are working for the other side, unless they do something for which there is no possible pro-Pizzagate-investigation reason.
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chordwonder ago
He/she deletes my posts all the time. The rules are ridiculous. We're adults & capable of deciding for ourselves what we believe or not. This authoritarian style of moderating leads me to think this a forum to draw out & censor pizzagate investigators.
SpikyAube ago
No I really don't think that's the case, genuinely I think most of the mods are really trying to make sure that things on the hot page are relevant and won't put off any newcomers, that there aren't things not useful/evidenced etc taking up space where a good post with lots of leads and sources could be, and the really tricky tasks of trying to make sure that there isn't disinformation/distracting stuff being posted by the 'other side' in order to muddy the waters and lead the investigation in the wrong direction. It's actually quite a difficult job, especially considering what's at stake and the fact that this platform is quite visible so there is a responsibility on some level to try to ensure that good, solid, backed up information is up front so that people can't just come here point at something there's no source for and say 'see? they're just making this stuff up' and then go away and tell everyone it's all been 'debunked.'
I think the mods are trying their best, and really if you look at the things that M_F has deleted, they do all break the rules, and the rules were decided as a collective to be for the best of the investigation. The fact it's so hard to know exactly who to trust makes it harder - e.g. this post from FBIAnon could be a distraction/disinformation tactic to send people off hunting non-existent leads etc, it's just so hard to tell without proof. But I can definitely see the argument the other way too, and that people should be able to work out what is and isn't real and down vote the crap and up vote the good stuff, but that still doesn't get around the problem of how it's presented to the sceptics who are wandering over here out of doubtful curiosity... So basically, it's complicated and difficult and I don't think that deleting this is evidence of trying to draw out and censor investigators.
Dressage2 ago
'Seriously, this is crap! Come on, we are not stupid! They are shills and trying to lead us like sheep!
SpikyAube ago
You're making out like it's black and white - if the mods make a decision I disagree with then they are shills... when in reality they just have a different idea of what is the best thing to do given all the circumstances and in light of their previous experience. It's fair enough to get annoyed and disagree and state your case, I just think it's completely unhelpful to decide it means they are working for the other side, unless they do something for which there is no possible pro-Pizzagate-investigation reason.