Be careful not to make spurious correlations because they may be false.
The google trends in US does not show a correlation between pizzagate and fake news.
They are definitely either following the same trend or a related one. I remember as soon as the fake news stuff came out I knew right then that they were setting up the attack on pizzagate hitting MSM, and sure enough. I feel the timing also coincided with when they may have taken out assange and triggered his dead mans switch.
Partly, yes. But I also believe it was an attempt to steer the public back to the failing, dying Mainstream Media after it failed to help get Hillary elected.
The most ironic part about the MSM pushing their "fake news" narrative is that it actually triggered more of their viewers to question what they were being told. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.
I wrote a thought piece on Reddit, within the pizzagate subverse, about the strategy of labeling pizzagate as "fake news "… and my post was immediately shadowbanned so that nobody could read it. At the time, I was puzzled when people were telling me they couldn't see the essay from the link I posted. Reddit took down the entire subreddit that night.
I said the SAME THING when pizzagate first started getting some coverage...Ill bet this fake news will tie into it...bam...am I psychic? No just not a brainwashed idiot.
The knowledge these emails had been leaked came long before fake news was a topic. Long before 99% of people had ever heard of fake news. My opinion is that fake news was one of the pieces of amunition the democratic party considered part of their arsenal if things did escalate. And as for the graph, fake news was higher at first because the second a thing was said about the emails, that piece of amunition was brought out in full force.
The news has been untruthful/fake...since always...take everything with a grain of salt, especially now since they are able to manipulate so much.
But just in the past decade, since cell phones have cameras and internet have people on a large scale been able to provide evidence of this and also easily tell other people. So many people trusted their "nightly news anchor" though and would not believe it.
Now the news is so wacky a lot of people now know the truth, but there are still those that can't understand or it would destroy their world.
Fake News broke after the Podesta emails Wikileaks dump at approx. the same period of time that Julian Assange's internet was cut off and Kerry was in London. I remember Hillary stated that "If there's a big WHOPPER dumped by Wikileaks in the next few days, it's FAKE". Something big needed to be stopped from being leaked. The Internet went black for a couple hours too. Shortly after, Alt-right social media exploded with Pizzagate videos on YT and twitter posts. That's what caused the 'Fake News' movement.
It was because Hillary knew the dead mans switch would activate. It seems they DDOSed it out of existence but she was preparing a answer in case it went through. Assange is not okay!!! The videos are all either completely faked or using chromakey. (Green screen)
I think CIA custody makes sense. The videos are faked but the one with oreilley seems to be actually assange but just green screened. So, I think he is alive but either in custody or being protected.
This is correct. Fake News began being used as soon as people began noticing the oddities of the Podesta Wikileaks emails... it took a little while before pizzagate to trend, but this was the tactic they used. I noted it at the time and it seemed obvious.
Or maybe it was created in anticipation to the revelations of pizzagate in order to point out to the average Joe that the MSM is in fact the fake news and this pizzagate thing is NOT.
No, it was definitely reactionary. The Dems probably thought this whole DNCleaks thing with Podesta was going to die down after the election. They probably guessed this was some sort of anti-dem move being perpetrated by a Republican think tank, and once the election was over, the pizzagate movement would just disappear.
The Dems realized too late that the term pizzagate was ramping up post-election instead of dying down. Mostly because Clinton lost so badly, and people still wanted their pound of flesh out of her raggedy ass for her skullduggerous performance in the Democratic primary, as well as her apparent nature as a slimy asshole.
I can't wait to see her empire destroyed. I hope her head comes off in the noose.
This is my take on it. If you go with my theory that Pizzagate was a hit by a foreign intelligence agency, then the US side got wind there was something big in the pipeline and started Fake News trending to try and counter the coming wave.
@AreWeSure what are your thoughts on the human trafficking commercial from DHS showing the neon PIZZA sign while the narrator says "the signs are everywhere"?
I'm sorry, is this just the wording? How about * It doesn't concern me in the slightest* because from your description it seems like you are putting a lot of weight on coincidence.
Also I read your post as "commercial from DHL" LOL. oops.
I rephrase it this way. I have no thoughts on it because I haven't seen it.
What this election showed was that we had moved from partisan websites commenting on the news.....people didn't call that fake news.....to dozens upon dozens of sites that just made up stories. Like the one above completely 100% fake. The were reacting the incentive of pay per click Google and Facebook advertising. A web site with multiple authors covering the real news needs a dependable everyday audience to make money. A fake news site can by just one guy. The fake news business can cover their expenses with one big story. And the best way to get the one big story is make up something outrageous.
Well, I didn't understand why DHL would run such a commercial.
Now having looked, yeah, seems coincidental, nothing more. DHS Blue has been going on for a few years now. Do you think they gave explicit instructions to the director, that it must be outside a pizzeria?
qwertyqwert ago
https://www.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%2012-m&geo=US&q=pizzagate,fake%20news
http://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations
Be careful not to make spurious correlations because they may be false. The google trends in US does not show a correlation between pizzagate and fake news.
Fateswebb ago
They are definitely either following the same trend or a related one. I remember as soon as the fake news stuff came out I knew right then that they were setting up the attack on pizzagate hitting MSM, and sure enough. I feel the timing also coincided with when they may have taken out assange and triggered his dead mans switch.
Fateswebb ago
I would love to see this chart more detailed but just starting at October.. not sure if you can do that.
Pwner1775 ago
I think the fakenews sorta backfired lol
Reggie000 ago
This was brought up once before; right around the time that it started happening. I thought everyone agreed on this already.
Pizzatemp420 ago
We did.
OrwellKnew ago
Partly, yes. But I also believe it was an attempt to steer the public back to the failing, dying Mainstream Media after it failed to help get Hillary elected.
Economist Calculates Impact Of Fake News On Trump's Election http://www.npr.org/2017/01/23/511267145/economist-calculates-impact-of-fake-news-on-trumps-election
The new paradigm of Alt Media and Social Media means they (media elites) cannot enforce consensus opinions anymore and they're steaming mad about it.
pnwpatriot97 ago
The most ironic part about the MSM pushing their "fake news" narrative is that it actually triggered more of their viewers to question what they were being told. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.
reasonedandinformed ago
I wrote a thought piece on Reddit, within the pizzagate subverse, about the strategy of labeling pizzagate as "fake news "… and my post was immediately shadowbanned so that nobody could read it. At the time, I was puzzled when people were telling me they couldn't see the essay from the link I posted. Reddit took down the entire subreddit that night.
sugarskull ago
I said the SAME THING when pizzagate first started getting some coverage...Ill bet this fake news will tie into it...bam...am I psychic? No just not a brainwashed idiot.
21yearsofdigging ago
Oh shit yeah. Pizzagate starts getting attention with the Instagrams and Podesta emails, then BOOM: Fake News, it's Fake News, Fake News, it's FAKE NEWS!!
murraryrothbard ago
I love how it backfired on them. I use it all the time to describe MSM and always remind people about saddam's WMD.
pizzaequalspedo ago
Fake news was a concerted effort to maintain control of the media narrative for all subjects not just pizzagate.
MSM and Dems realized that the alt media was chipping away at their propaganda machine and decided to take measures to discredit it.
ben_matlock ago
For real? lol Nothing gets by you ;)
Z11Mama ago
The knowledge these emails had been leaked came long before fake news was a topic. Long before 99% of people had ever heard of fake news. My opinion is that fake news was one of the pieces of amunition the democratic party considered part of their arsenal if things did escalate. And as for the graph, fake news was higher at first because the second a thing was said about the emails, that piece of amunition was brought out in full force.
bluemoonsnow ago
"am"
bignickwicked ago
It absolutely was. 100%, no doubt about it.
Yuser_Manuel ago
The news has been untruthful/fake...since always...take everything with a grain of salt, especially now since they are able to manipulate so much. But just in the past decade, since cell phones have cameras and internet have people on a large scale been able to provide evidence of this and also easily tell other people. So many people trusted their "nightly news anchor" though and would not believe it.
Now the news is so wacky a lot of people now know the truth, but there are still those that can't understand or it would destroy their world.
YingYangMom ago
Fake News broke after the Podesta emails Wikileaks dump at approx. the same period of time that Julian Assange's internet was cut off and Kerry was in London. I remember Hillary stated that "If there's a big WHOPPER dumped by Wikileaks in the next few days, it's FAKE". Something big needed to be stopped from being leaked. The Internet went black for a couple hours too. Shortly after, Alt-right social media exploded with Pizzagate videos on YT and twitter posts. That's what caused the 'Fake News' movement.
Fateswebb ago
It was because Hillary knew the dead mans switch would activate. It seems they DDOSed it out of existence but she was preparing a answer in case it went through. Assange is not okay!!! The videos are all either completely faked or using chromakey. (Green screen)
YingYangMom ago
I've seen and learned so many things recently, that I wouldn't be surprised if I learned that Julian is in CIA custody or even dead.
Fateswebb ago
I think CIA custody makes sense. The videos are faked but the one with oreilley seems to be actually assange but just green screened. So, I think he is alive but either in custody or being protected.
pizza_merc ago
To reiterate, the first time I saw the phrase "fake news" was on November 12, 2016. It was a post by Mark Zuckerburg on Facebook.
ThePoorPeople ago
Oh man, I can't even handle how perfectly this speaks to the propaganda.
Phenomenonanon ago
http://thehill.com/homenews/media/317646-fake-news-did-not-change-result-of-2016-election-study
Phenomenonanon ago
100%
AreWeSure ago
this is what got fake news trending
http://labs.thebureauinvestigates.com/fake-news-and-false-flags/
islandofdelight ago
This is correct. Fake News began being used as soon as people began noticing the oddities of the Podesta Wikileaks emails... it took a little while before pizzagate to trend, but this was the tactic they used. I noted it at the time and it seemed obvious.
BGAIN ago
Here is a shill posting currently on voat that being a paedophile is legal: https://voat.co/user/Mtat/comments
pizza_merc ago
I remember the first time I saw the phrase "fake news" was on November 12th. The first time I saw the phrase came from Mark Zuckerburg, when he stated that "fake news" was an epidemic on Facebook, and he was going to have some form of mechanism created in order to remove or control the news being posted. From there it was down hill.
jewsbadnews ago
Yep. If I remember correctly, the day or two after "fake news" was being used, Obama meet up with Merkel to talk about it.
FuckReddit69 ago
Or maybe it was created in anticipation to the revelations of pizzagate in order to point out to the average Joe that the MSM is in fact the fake news and this pizzagate thing is NOT.
a counter-psyops psyops if you will.
pizza_merc ago
No, it was definitely reactionary. The Dems probably thought this whole DNCleaks thing with Podesta was going to die down after the election. They probably guessed this was some sort of anti-dem move being perpetrated by a Republican think tank, and once the election was over, the pizzagate movement would just disappear.
The Dems realized too late that the term pizzagate was ramping up post-election instead of dying down. Mostly because Clinton lost so badly, and people still wanted their pound of flesh out of her raggedy ass for her skullduggerous performance in the Democratic primary, as well as her apparent nature as a slimy asshole.
I can't wait to see her empire destroyed. I hope her head comes off in the noose.
Edit: I take it back. I'm seeing shit from October. Look at this shill from CNN.
diamonddust ago
This is my take on it. If you go with my theory that Pizzagate was a hit by a foreign intelligence agency, then the US side got wind there was something big in the pipeline and started Fake News trending to try and counter the coming wave.
AreWeSure ago
Your graph shows otherwise. Fake news is trending before pizzagate.
Mrs_Ogynist01 ago
The emails were released October 7th and "fake news" started after that so definitely in response to Podesta's emails.
AreWeSure ago
Definitely? I don't think we are any near definitive. We have a correlation.
Way before the emails came out, we had fake story after fake story like these
Obvious Fake News Story released Sept 30th
Mrs_Ogynist01 ago
@AreWeSure what are your thoughts on the human trafficking commercial from DHS showing the neon PIZZA sign while the narrator says "the signs are everywhere"?
AreWeSure ago
Never heard about it. Now that I have, it doesn't worry me in the slightest.
Mrs_Ogynist01 ago
What would you have to be worried about?
AreWeSure ago
I'm sorry, is this just the wording? How about * It doesn't concern me in the slightest* because from your description it seems like you are putting a lot of weight on coincidence.
Also I read your post as "commercial from DHL" LOL. oops.
I rephrase it this way. I have no thoughts on it because I haven't seen it.
AreWeSure ago
What this election showed was that we had moved from partisan websites commenting on the news.....people didn't call that fake news.....to dozens upon dozens of sites that just made up stories. Like the one above completely 100% fake. The were reacting the incentive of pay per click Google and Facebook advertising. A web site with multiple authors covering the real news needs a dependable everyday audience to make money. A fake news site can by just one guy. The fake news business can cover their expenses with one big story. And the best way to get the one big story is make up something outrageous.
Mrs_Ogynist01 ago
Here's the video you haven't seen, but already deemed coincidental.
https://vid.me/Tal0
AreWeSure ago
thanks.
Well, I didn't understand why DHL would run such a commercial.
Now having looked, yeah, seems coincidental, nothing more. DHS Blue has been going on for a few years now. Do you think they gave explicit instructions to the director, that it must be outside a pizzeria?
What do you think is going on here?