Have to not assume this is some bizarre nefarious thing. It's a natural design an artist might use. Badges are not exactly high art. If you were designing a badge it would be pretty natural to use that design in the corners. I'm sure i've drawn that design into triangle doodles. A young kid drawing could do that naturally.
Of course Stars, 5 or 6 pointed are endemic and not necessarily Zionist, Freemason, or anything suggesting darker conspiratorial meanings.
The badge with the Boy Lover symbol originated with Sheriff E. W. Biscailuz, who had a badge custom made for him with this symbol.
"Around 1939, Sheriff Biscailuz developed the Sheriff's Boys Band. This group of juvenile musicians was organized and trained by Colonel Vesey Walker, an experienced and veteran conductor. Under the sponsorship of the Sheriff's Department they appeared in various cities, proudly representing the finest Sheriff's Deptpartment in the entire country."
"Another innovative first by Sheriff Biscailuz was the creation of the “Junior Deputy” program in the 30’s. The program has since morphed into today’s Law Enforcement Explorer program."
Could this be just another coincidence?
Additional information:
http://archive.is/vIFRd "During Prohibition, Biscailuz was one of an influential band of revelers who called themselves the Uplifters Club and built their own Rustic Canyon hangout. The exclusive men's group, drawn from the rich, powerful and famous, included newspaper and bank executives, and Hollywood celebrities Will Rogers, Walt Disney, Spencer Tracy, Clark Gable, Harold Lloyd and Daryl F. Zanuck."
So lets throw anyone who worked with young people under the bus. All teachers, cops, band directors, fathers-- under the bus. The badge in question was created in 1938. You are besmerching the name of someone considered a good law man. This kind of sloppy logic makes pizzagate researchers look bad to the average person. If you have something---anything more then conjecture---on Sheriff Biscailuz show it.
First prove when the design was used as a pedo symbol. Grunge triangles used in textiles based on paleothic paintings, seriously cavemen pedophiles....because the design looks like...what? There is no hidden meaning to the design itself. Pizzagate research wastes time with dumb things.
no we are not going to be unreasonable, as you suggest, nor is there a need for extremism. What is needed is a measured, reasonable investigation.
Your concern is so appreciated though.
You would probably admit that the questions the average person would ask have not yet been answered. Going off on loose associations doesn't help the cause.
The first question people ask is "Can you prove that Pedophila symbol memo really came from the FBI?" The next question is, when did pedophiles first start using these symbols and phrases?
I have seen very little info from the Dark Web demonstrating how the terms and symbols are used in the marketplace. I certainly am not going to explore it, nor will the average person.
We also have no idea how much the FBI and other law enforcement is doing to further the investigation. For all anyone knows, they are makng an airtight case, or maybe they are afraid too. We just don't know.
Relying on "FBI Anon" to make a case to the public is pretty useless. Who is FBI Anon? they ask. The major features of the Pizzagate investigation, has made little headway since the main revelations.
what goes on here isn't really investigation per se, as a genuine investigation is beyond the scope of the average person, just as you say. It is more akin to journalism but without any training. The value here is in crowd sourcing attention to a matter that quickly produces a great deal of leads for genuine law enforcement and hopefully real journalists to sift through. Along with a few good leads comes a lot of crap, stupid comments and misdirection as well as outright shilling to deflect. You can't stand the heat then step out of the kitchen. Nothing wrong with you calling bs on anything you like, but I disagree that if 1 person or even a majority of people say something dumb, that means the entire effort is worthless, and everyone here is a boob on a witchunt. This is definitely not true. That's black and white thinking as bad as the bs you call out.
People can be people, but seeing"SMOKING Gun" then silliness, for the hundreth time doesnt help the cause. I tend to think a lot of the misdirection Are shills, but unprovable.
It could also be some people grasping at straws and in some cases people with tenuous grasp on reality, (not to be mean).
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rp5x5 ago
Have to not assume this is some bizarre nefarious thing. It's a natural design an artist might use. Badges are not exactly high art. If you were designing a badge it would be pretty natural to use that design in the corners. I'm sure i've drawn that design into triangle doodles. A young kid drawing could do that naturally.
Of course Stars, 5 or 6 pointed are endemic and not necessarily Zionist, Freemason, or anything suggesting darker conspiratorial meanings.
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rp5x5 ago
Downvoting my comment because I use common sense and backed up the argument, means some people here are actually detrimental to Pizzagate research.
VieBleu ago
2nd comment - well rp5.5 - turns out there is some very interesting history behind this. You can't just dismiss things as a cowinkeedink now.
Alpo said, on this thread https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1612852 LOOK AT THIS! http://www.scvhistory.com/scvhistory/lasdhistory2011.htm
See pages 20, 25, 26, 59 and 60.
The badge with the Boy Lover symbol originated with Sheriff E. W. Biscailuz, who had a badge custom made for him with this symbol.
"Around 1939, Sheriff Biscailuz developed the Sheriff's Boys Band. This group of juvenile musicians was organized and trained by Colonel Vesey Walker, an experienced and veteran conductor. Under the sponsorship of the Sheriff's Department they appeared in various cities, proudly representing the finest Sheriff's Deptpartment in the entire country."
"Another innovative first by Sheriff Biscailuz was the creation of the “Junior Deputy” program in the 30’s. The program has since morphed into today’s Law Enforcement Explorer program."
Could this be just another coincidence?
Additional information:
http://archive.is/vIFRd "During Prohibition, Biscailuz was one of an influential band of revelers who called themselves the Uplifters Club and built their own Rustic Canyon hangout. The exclusive men's group, drawn from the rich, powerful and famous, included newspaper and bank executives, and Hollywood celebrities Will Rogers, Walt Disney, Spencer Tracy, Clark Gable, Harold Lloyd and Daryl F. Zanuck."
More about the Uplifters: http://archive.is/XrgdS
Yet more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Uplifters The Uplifters produced a play titled "The Uplift of Lucifer"
rp5x5 ago
So lets throw anyone who worked with young people under the bus. All teachers, cops, band directors, fathers-- under the bus. The badge in question was created in 1938. You are besmerching the name of someone considered a good law man. This kind of sloppy logic makes pizzagate researchers look bad to the average person. If you have something---anything more then conjecture---on Sheriff Biscailuz show it.
First prove when the design was used as a pedo symbol. Grunge triangles used in textiles based on paleothic paintings, seriously cavemen pedophiles....because the design looks like...what? There is no hidden meaning to the design itself. Pizzagate research wastes time with dumb things.
VieBleu ago
no we are not going to be unreasonable, as you suggest, nor is there a need for extremism. What is needed is a measured, reasonable investigation.
Your concern is so appreciated though.
rp5x5 ago
You would probably admit that the questions the average person would ask have not yet been answered. Going off on loose associations doesn't help the cause.
The first question people ask is "Can you prove that Pedophila symbol memo really came from the FBI?" The next question is, when did pedophiles first start using these symbols and phrases?
I have seen very little info from the Dark Web demonstrating how the terms and symbols are used in the marketplace. I certainly am not going to explore it, nor will the average person.
We also have no idea how much the FBI and other law enforcement is doing to further the investigation. For all anyone knows, they are makng an airtight case, or maybe they are afraid too. We just don't know.
Relying on "FBI Anon" to make a case to the public is pretty useless. Who is FBI Anon? they ask. The major features of the Pizzagate investigation, has made little headway since the main revelations.
In the meantime these tangents aren't helpful.
VieBleu ago
what goes on here isn't really investigation per se, as a genuine investigation is beyond the scope of the average person, just as you say. It is more akin to journalism but without any training. The value here is in crowd sourcing attention to a matter that quickly produces a great deal of leads for genuine law enforcement and hopefully real journalists to sift through. Along with a few good leads comes a lot of crap, stupid comments and misdirection as well as outright shilling to deflect. You can't stand the heat then step out of the kitchen. Nothing wrong with you calling bs on anything you like, but I disagree that if 1 person or even a majority of people say something dumb, that means the entire effort is worthless, and everyone here is a boob on a witchunt. This is definitely not true. That's black and white thinking as bad as the bs you call out.
rp5x5 ago
People can be people, but seeing"SMOKING Gun" then silliness, for the hundreth time doesnt help the cause. I tend to think a lot of the misdirection Are shills, but unprovable. It could also be some people grasping at straws and in some cases people with tenuous grasp on reality, (not to be mean).
VieBleu ago
Even so, I do find the compendium of information compiled here these two months very interesting, fascinating at times.