Did American Family Voices Voters' Alliance and Sandler Foundation traffick Madeleine McCann to Steve Bing? (pizzagate)

submitted ago by Hillary4Jail

Using the pedophile codebook, Susan Sandler can be linked to some perverse activities together with her father Herbert and Podesta, possible S&M with children.

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/23561

Podesta brothers may have been involved in the 3rd of May 2007 abduction of Madeleine McCann.

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5bk8ex/john_and_tony_podesta_bear_an_uncanny_resemblance/

John Podesta sent and received many e-mails every day. E-mails from 3rd of May 2007 and around half a year back seems to have been deleted by John, possible to hide some conversations. The first e-mail after the blank period is sent 4th of May 2007 to Herbert Sandler. In the mail, John's wife states that the Sandlers and Podestas have met during the week. The 4th of May 2007 was a Friday and the abduction is supposed to have taken place the day before.

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/9364

In the mail an organization is named, American Family Voices Voters' Alliance (AFVVA). According to OpenSecrets.org Shangri-La Entertainment contributed $600,000 to AFVVA the 31st of October 2007. The Founder of Shangri-La Entertainment, Steve Bing, is a traveler of the Lolita Express and also lent his aircraft to Bill Clinton when Laura Ling and Euna Lee was returned to the US with a piece of pizza.

https://www.opensecrets.org/527s/527cmtedetail_contribs.php?cycle=2008&ein=383708257

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/10037

Apparently Joe Sandler is related to Herbert and goes on holidays together. Joe is the attorney representing AFVVA in a case where AFVVA made automated political calls to families in Indiana. Joe also incorporated Campaign to Defend America in the 1st of March 2007, which received $300,000 from AFVVA in between 2007 and 2008.

https://wikileaks.com/podesta-emails/emailid/35646

http://archive.courierpress.com/news/local/327127971.html?d=mobile

http://www.revealnews.org/wp-content/uploads/legacy-images/Certofincorporation.pdf

Sandlers and American Family Voices Voters' Alliance is apparently tightly knit. If all the possibles are true, could the Podestas have abducted Madeleine McCann, handed her over to the Sandler who sold her to AFVVA for $300,000. AFVVA then trafficked her to Shangri-La Entertainment for $600,000. This way Sandler and AFVVA earns $300,000 each. Apparently, Podesta is on the payroll of the Sandler Foundation, not the former Hillary campaign.

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/11/john-podesta-herb-sandler-wikileaks

This is really suspicious. Please help me out here.

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AreWeSure ago

Pedophile codebook? Show proof such a thing exists.

2impendingdoom ago

The handkerchief code is well known, its not a big stretch to connect the word handkerchief to code.

AreWeSure ago

Handkerchief code is not a code you need to use with people you know. It would not have meaning inside your house. It supposed to signal to people in gay bars.

Much more importantly, it is not a pedophile code. People photoshopped pedophilia into some fake screenshots. But it's not part of the code. https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5es1bk/code_used_to_decipher_podesta_email_is_based_on/

And it's says nothing about food.

2impendingdoom ago

Handkerchief is code, just because its not pedophile code doesn't mean its not code. If its code, its code, if it as alternate meanings, and other phrases are equally bizarre, like pizza-related map then its even more likely code. Maybe a different code, but still code. Sorry that this confuses you.

AreWeSure ago

No. People have said the importance of handkerchief is that it is part of a handkerchief code and the colors of the handkerchief in the email meant pedophilia according to the handkerchief code and that is a lie. People then tried to fake evidence to support this lie via photoshop.

It doesn't confuse me. I haven't found a single example of what is supposed to be code stand up as likely code. And thus the whole investigation is based on something false. Weird language/phrasing I don't get doesn't equal code.

There's no evidence for the food based code that people claimed as well. That is a claim. At least the handkerchief code is a thing. The food code isn't even a thing.

In fact, the very fact that they talked about food so much was supposed to be suspicious. No Italian I know would find that odd.

Cheese Pizza is what 4chan said meant child pornography. Show me one example of this phrase in podesta's emails.

ThePuppetShow ago

You are the same person that was shilling yesterday, with the same exact argument. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1609922/7853305

You must be James, people have suspected this name for a while. You do realize your superiors are going to hang you out to dry on this one, right?

AreWeSure ago

Yes, my argument is the same it was yesterday. Should it have changed? Why don't you engage my argument instead your ridiculous speculation?

This is one of the key arguments behind pizzagate Food Code

What's the evidence this is true?

ThePuppetShow ago

I'm accusing you of being PizzagateIsInsane. You wrote the same exact argument in the same words, shill.

You know damn well this investigation doesn't rely on the handkerchief code, it never did. That was part of trying to figure out what they were talking about. A better lead turned up with Kim Noble and that is what helped explain the "pizza related map".

http://www.kimnoble.com/Nowheretorun.jpg

AreWeSure ago

Yeah, I believe my argument is valid. Why would I change the wording of it?

*I know damn well it doesn't rely on the handkerchief code? * Really? I do? Have you checked the Fully Sourced Executive Summary sticky? Because the handkerchief code is still cited and Kim Noble is not. If that's wrong, take it up with them.

In another email, Podesta was told that he left behind a black-and-white handkerchief "with a map that seems pizza-related". A handkerchief with a "pizza-related" map? What the...? Note that in the gay community, handkerchiefs are sometimes used as code for sexual preferences. It is possible that others have adopted this code as well. Black symbolizes bdsm/domination in this code; some have suggested that white could symbolize pedophilia, due to the association of white with innocence and purity. Furthermore, as discussed previously, "cheese pizza" is a common code phrase meaning "child pornography," so "pizza" could be an adaptation of that.

So it is not only still being cited, it still references the debunked "white equals pedophilia" fakery. And no published handkerchief code has any meaning for a black and white handkerchief.

Anyway, the code I just linked to was the food code. I would say the pizzagate does rely heavily on that. So that is what I was asking when I said why do you engage my argument.

ThePuppetShow ago

So you admit that you are "pizzagateisinsane"?

AreWeSure ago

I never followed your original link. Because I have repeated arguments before. Which I don't see any problem with whatsover if they remain valid.

ThePuppetShow ago

You're repeating arguments under different names.

AreWeSure ago

I just went and looked and saw you got into a big argument with him yesterday and you still can't distinguish our writing styles.

I'm not him. I've been arguing about the code being arbitrarily made up and in particular the idiocy about walnut sauce which is a fallacy called Arguing from Ignorance for quite a while here.

The first place I saw fake