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remedy4reality ago

That is not how to hold a child, EVER.

MAGABoomer ago

says a person who has never wrangled a child...or two in diapers. Yes, it's a way to carry a kid, however what is NOT normal is to sexualize it. That's fucked up.

ConcernedParent2 ago

This. Terry Richardson is a sick freak, but millions of parents hold their babies this way when they are this young, it's really hard not to when they're so damn hyper and flailing around. They're wearing diapers that are very thick, you can't even feel anything unless you're actually going out of your way to. This is so common it's exactly why this sicko can do this and not fear backlash.

Source: Parent who has raised 3 children, plus baby sitting countless nieces, nephews, and cousins.

MAGABoomer ago

LOL hard to get a grip on the little fucker init? When I see people make blanket statements like that...I know they have never, ever, held a wiggling diapered kid. I've had a kid on my hip since I was seven. I don't have much hip. I got my favorite darling trained to grip with his legs...otherwise he's gonna slide off. That's in facing hip carry...he now props his legs around me like scissors cause he knows poor auntie has no shelf and he's either gonna slide off, or hang on for dear life. He's got that sorted. It's actually easier to carry front facing crotch grab cause if I prop him on my hip I can put my arm across his chest/crotch and hold onto his thigh. If I put him infacing on my hip he is automatic legs out around and gripping like he's on a pony...he can feel the slide! He's so damn precious and smart! It blows my mind the things that people sexualize and you wonder WTF is in their heads..how can any adult look at baby bits and feel anything but "oh hell, he's got poop there again?" it's mind numbing.

ConcernedParent2 ago

Yes! Sometimes I forget there are members on here who have never had a kid or baby sat one long enough. They are going to be really surprised one day, they will learn just how much effort it can take to carry a baby. I remember my brother telling me I was over reacting with my first kid. One day he watched my son for me while I shopped. I came back home, he said "Okay, you were right, this baby is like jello!" He had almost dropped my baby several times.

THE HIP CARRY! God am I glad to be over that stage, my youngest LOVED to do that and I hated it because, he liked to wiggle until he could "slide" off of me, thinking it was sooo funny. Like you said, it's so much easier to do the crotch/thigh carry, that way they can flail around all they want and I don't have to fear that they're about to slide off or jump out of my arms and knock themselves out!

I don't get how anyone can do awful things to a child either. It breaks my heart. I've cried reading these stories. I feel guilty whenever I yell at my children, I just can't even begin to comprehend how some people go much further than that. :(

MAGABoomer ago

I know. It's kind of sad really because back in the day people had experience taking care of children. Now they depend on "the best mommy boards." I had to "rescue" the gal I'm mentoring AGAIN...she's in a panic over the snowsuit car seat controversy...it took some time to undo that asshattery. I was like OMGFUCKING GOD who loosens the car seat...that's the thing, people are so stupid that they do things and then there has to be made a law...literally stupid people are why we have warnings on buckets, and dry cleaning bags. WHO NEEDS a warning?

I should probably never be given any public leadership job. The first thing I'd do is mandate reversible, but permanent tube clamping on all newborns if a way can be found to do it without too much invasion. Then if a person wants to reproduce they need to go through a vetting process and prove they are actually fit to become a parent, both intellectually and physical care wise. I could do away with stupid people in about 50 years that way...and end child abuse...and rampant breeding and child poverty.

Sigh....I know, I know...never let me become dictator of the free world. I've seen so many horrific things happening to children...that making sure people cannot have them unless that child will be loved and not subject to any forms of abuse...that's more important than an adult's unbridled "right" to reproduce and fuck up another human for life.

Children are the only members of our society who never have a choice. Adults always have a choice unless they've got a gun held to their heads. Stands to reason then...children are a priority.

I was telling my "mentored mom" today...scary world out there, don't be a stupid "best mom". Never leave your child in sunday school, daycare, or church nursery, never leave them anywhere you do not know 100% that child is not going to be abused. Churches are havens for these assholes. Boy Scouts? Ah...not..maybe depending...athletic coaches? FUCK...keep sports and coaching on the field, no field trips,NO overnights...(my soccer coach ended up being a very famous serial rapist...for reals...and oddly my parents NEVER let me participate in team activities off the soccer field.) If you're gonna have them, raise them yourself. That's all. Our culture of handing our kids over to someone else to raise=fucked up kids as we see the first daycare generation aka Millennials/Snowflakes...hitting the streets. It's insanity.

Dear people, abusers are kind, friendly helpful, and fun. They ingratiate themselves to get access. Single moms with kids...stop bringing your boyfriends home....FUCKING EVER> Just stop it. There are men who HUNT women with kids, they just do. So put your kids a priority and keep men away from your kids until they are old enough to defend themselves. Jaysus how many stepkids get kiddie fucked over this? Too many. Of all the things that makes my brain explode is women giving their "dates" access to their kids.

Sorry rant over. I hate seeing ignorant blanket statements. They devalue real issues. What I read on the Tribe when we were digging into that here...scared the shit out of me. When I have that baby out with me fucking no one touches it. I don't let anyone coo, touch, or even look. I wear him or now leash him. He sits in the grocery cart, he is CLIPPED to the cart. I mentored this mom to contact=normal. Not stash the kid in a tote car seat and haul him around in that. In fact Oz has made those types of seats illegal because ...stupid people using them. Just in the last month I could have walked off with three babies..cause their stupid ass moms sat that seat down and walked off...they sit it in a grocery cart...all you have to do is lift it and walk off...with 800k children going missing every year in the US alone...sadly if people cannot stop using them I can see them eventually being illegal in the US as well. Wear the baby. It's what our ancestors did, it natural, normal and the absolute safest way for baby. (except if you're too stupid to learn to use the carriers correctly...which sadly has happened.)

ObscureAcademia ago

You are both TAVISTOCK so clear to me.

MAGABoomer ago

At least you're clear.