Where the fuck is this investigation going? Do you KNOW any kids that go to a Waldorf school? Generally, the most balanced, polite, intelligent children I've seen coming out of any educational system, with parents that seem to want that to be the case. Yes, there is a mystical core, but not all of the occult is satanic. That's why it's specifically called SATANISM. So Alephantis is apparently involved with this specific school... That should obviously ring alarm bells if true, but if you condemn all Waldorf schools in the hopes of creating a backlash towards them, you are playing into the hands of the Satanists that want the truly corrupt "educational" systems to remain operating. Research the shit out of this before judging.
I disagree. When I was looking for schools to enroll my children in, I looked into Waldorf schools, there is much criticism of it being "cult like" and having racist and Nazi roots. I suggest you do some reading. Knowing a few people who went there and turned out okay doesn't mean anything. I'm sure there are some Waldorf schools that are okay, but to deny the roots and foundation of this education is dishonest.
The only way I can really describe Anthroposophy is as an esoteric crypto-religious organisation based on a mystical and racist view of humanity and an astrological and clairvoyant view of understanding science. Anthroposophy is full of barmpot ideas, such as the literal existence of gnomes, that the British Isles floats on the sea, homeopathy works, and burning mice ritually will protect your crops from them. Oh, and if you are good, you will be reincarnated as an Northern European Ayrian. And its adherents either don’t want to know this themselves and most definitely do not want you to know this. Should its fundamental beliefs and aims become common knowledge then it would cause all sorts of problems, not least for Gove’s new free Steiner Schools*. Adherents deny and spread disingenuous misinformation in order to soften criticism.
Every movement attracts some nut jobs (not that everything that can not be explained conventially is wrong). Take any group, whether it be religious, political, financial whatever and you can find ways of making the entire organisation look crazy if you have confirmation bias. I never heard any of those I know who attended say "yeah, great day we had, got to burn a mouse for science class".
Read the articles, they have obviously adapted and changed since the Nazi era, but they still, at their core, believe and do crazy shit. The whole reason I even looked up information on them was because the website of our local Waldorf school had a very vague and evasive website, and leaving out important information (never stating that they were secular or religious, for example). I found out this was a common practice and complaint from parents who went into the system believing it was a secular curriculum, only to find out later it wasn't and that they believe in fairies and karma, as well as using very white washed version of history.
I will look into the white supremacist stuff. However I believe in the holy ghost, and I believe in it's activity in nature (nature spirits, faries are differences in cultural nomenclature). I also believe in karma, hence why a) people are finding out about the presence of Satanism in our society, and b) starting to do something about it. Its right for you to be suspicious of things that cannot be quantified or experienced in our nuts and bolts physical reality, but by their deeds you shall know them, did you talk to any of the kids? Remember every organisation can and possibly has been infiltrated, but we shouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
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postfascion ago
Where the fuck is this investigation going? Do you KNOW any kids that go to a Waldorf school? Generally, the most balanced, polite, intelligent children I've seen coming out of any educational system, with parents that seem to want that to be the case. Yes, there is a mystical core, but not all of the occult is satanic. That's why it's specifically called SATANISM. So Alephantis is apparently involved with this specific school... That should obviously ring alarm bells if true, but if you condemn all Waldorf schools in the hopes of creating a backlash towards them, you are playing into the hands of the Satanists that want the truly corrupt "educational" systems to remain operating. Research the shit out of this before judging.
ConcernedParent2 ago
I disagree. When I was looking for schools to enroll my children in, I looked into Waldorf schools, there is much criticism of it being "cult like" and having racist and Nazi roots. I suggest you do some reading. Knowing a few people who went there and turned out okay doesn't mean anything. I'm sure there are some Waldorf schools that are okay, but to deny the roots and foundation of this education is dishonest.
http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2012/11/what-every-parent-should-know-about-steiner-waldorf-schools.html
http://www.quackometer.net/blog/2012/07/the-insidious-pervasiveness-of-the-cult-of-rudolf-steiner.html
postfascion ago
Every movement attracts some nut jobs (not that everything that can not be explained conventially is wrong). Take any group, whether it be religious, political, financial whatever and you can find ways of making the entire organisation look crazy if you have confirmation bias. I never heard any of those I know who attended say "yeah, great day we had, got to burn a mouse for science class".
ConcernedParent2 ago
Read the articles, they have obviously adapted and changed since the Nazi era, but they still, at their core, believe and do crazy shit. The whole reason I even looked up information on them was because the website of our local Waldorf school had a very vague and evasive website, and leaving out important information (never stating that they were secular or religious, for example). I found out this was a common practice and complaint from parents who went into the system believing it was a secular curriculum, only to find out later it wasn't and that they believe in fairies and karma, as well as using very white washed version of history.
postfascion ago
I will look into the white supremacist stuff. However I believe in the holy ghost, and I believe in it's activity in nature (nature spirits, faries are differences in cultural nomenclature). I also believe in karma, hence why a) people are finding out about the presence of Satanism in our society, and b) starting to do something about it. Its right for you to be suspicious of things that cannot be quantified or experienced in our nuts and bolts physical reality, but by their deeds you shall know them, did you talk to any of the kids? Remember every organisation can and possibly has been infiltrated, but we shouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
1223344556677888 ago
Do you live in DC?
postfascion ago
Hahahaha, no really.
1223344556677888 ago
I'm famous in DC and Rome. The Rothschild speak to me often. Being that we are related.
postfascion ago
Omg. Really? That's wonderful for you! I'm done.
1223344556677888 ago
Enjoy your pretend magic.
postfascion ago
Thanks :) xxxxx