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varialus ago

Did you slip it into the show just so you could report on it in here? Aw, you sly dawg!

CynicalLurker ago

Why the fuck are there so many assholes on here? Go check for yourself you fucking dickhead!

varialus ago

Well somebody put it there, didn't they? And you think they don't know about us? Oh, they know. So what you gotta ask yourself is this, who would be more likely to spot the symbol? Some sincere pizzagate researcher, or the guy who put it there? I'm not saying you for sure put it there, but it seems probable enough that we shouldn't just dismiss the possibility out of hand. For as they say, he who saw'd it drawed it.

CynicalLurker ago

So you actually think I could be the guy that worked at this show and was responsible for putting this logo there? Wow, is that seriously more likely in your mind than some pizzagate researcher noticing this logo while watching the show? The show is from mid 2016 as far as I know, so it is impossible that this was put there to confuse pizzagate researchers or whatever you are implying.

varialus ago

Well let's just see here. How many posts have you made? Two? And whoever put it there obviously didn't have to know about pizzagate when they put it there, but somebody who would put something like that there is just as likely to discover pizzagate as a pizzagater is to happen across random symbols on TV. You think they're not here? Oh, they're here baby, they're here!

CynicalLurker ago

Ok, let me type this out for you.

Option A: I'm the guy who put this logo there. Meaning I am the ONE guy responsible for this getting into a community of several thousand people by chance. At the time I put it there I didn't know what this logo resembles and now I am spreading it here as disinformation because for unknown reasons I want to sabotage pizzagate.

Option B: Same as above but this time I knew it was a pedophile symbol when I put it there specifically to mock those who know. Now I come here to spread this information, potentially leading to me being implicated in a giant pedophile ring. For what reason? Shits and giggles I suppose.

Option C: I am one of the millions of people who have seen the show at some point and also happen to be one of the thousands of people interested in pizzagate and thus familiar with the symbolism. Now I come here to spread awareness and ask others if they have noticed similar things that could potentially lead us to new evidence.

If option A or B sound most probable to you, you might actually be legally retarded.

Konran ago

Thanks for providing options (though limited to just three).

Thanks too for the ad hominem attack against anyone who may not agree with your favoured choice of Option 3.

How about another option or two?

Option D: You are a well-meaning, though slightly misguided individual who is overly eager to contribute in whatever way you can. This leads to you posting fairly irrelevant information about paedophilic symbols in a TV show.

Option E: You are a paid actor in the game and you are here spreading a certain narrative. After the lack of support and critical questioning of your other post regarding an alleged victim and certain emails, you are now here trying to gain some credibility by posting something about paedophilic symbols in a TV show.

Now, just because I've thought of two different possibilities are you going to clinically certify me as insane?

CynicalLurker ago

Option D is just like option C with different semantics. Option E is almost like option A and B with the difference that I had to first randomly stumble across this symbol just in order to use it for shilling.

varialus ago

Option B isn't to mock anyone but rather is a sign of solidarity to like minded individuals who feel isolated. Why risk being outed by posting as a supposedly sincere pizzagate researcher? Well the purpose is the same as the purpose behind putting the symbol in the show, to show solidarity to all the interested lurkers who wonder what implications this investigation will have on society at large. And why pose as a sincere pizzagate researcher? For the same reason they'd claim ignorance if anyone questioned why they put the symbol in the show. So that people don't hunt them down. To be honest, I was was just joking around, but your reaction has gotten me to think it through, and while yeah, you are likely just a sincere pizzagate researcher, there's no way to know for sure. The longer this investigation persists and the bigger it gets, the more likely that some individuals will attempt to co-opt it to their own ends. Call me crazy, but I may be ever so slightly legally retarded.

CynicalLurker ago

I'm sorry if my reaction seemed too defensive. It's just that this isn't the first time that I'm trying to contribute something and people act like I'm some shill trying to distract people, even when I specifically state that this might be nothing and only ask if people happen to know more. I don't get this hostile attitude and it pisses me off beyond belief. And for real, thinking that it's more likely that I am the person responsible for this symbol than me just being one of millions who watched the show is quite a stretch to say the least.

varialus ago

I'm not really accusing you. I'd tell you to chillax, but the other day somebody twisted my words about me half mindlessly browsing most all of Voat into an accusation that I seek out news about suffering children as a way to relax. The person was just joking around, but it annoyed me in a way that most insults don't. I didn't mean any harm, but I can understand that jokingly playing devil's advocate can more easily get under somebody's skin when it's about a topic, which in all seriousness isn't a joking matter. I retract any and all suspicion about you. Anyway, I hope I haven't ruined your day. Have a good one! :-)

CynicalLurker ago

I'm happy we could deescalate this. I guess the treshold for getting pissed off is significantly lower in this community, due to the sensible topic, as well as the fact that we get ridiculed when talking about this in public all the time. I hope I didn't offend you with my slurs, just see them as a delayed response to the wink-smiley-asshole further up. Anyway, I'm just trying to contribute whatever I can. I don't have the necessary research skills nor the extra time to dig into the really big, promising leads, so I'm more than happy when I notice something that likely hasn't been noticed before. Have a good one too, mate!

varialus ago

I wasn't offended in the slightest. Thanks for contributing and keep up the good work! My understanding is that /v/pizzagate has a pretty high bar, and I can totally see how my joking around in here could very likely be interpreted as part of that high bar, so I'll try to remember to refrain from bantering in here. But there are probably other people like me browsing /v/all and /v/all/new who may come in and casually joke around meaning no harm but actually causing some, so uh just be aware I guess. Also remember that although less active, there are a bunch of other pizzagate subverses that are less stringent, so if anything that you feel is relevant gets deleted, don't take it personally and please do share it in one of the other subverses.