The Comet Ping Pong Wikipedia page states that the D.C. Police department has debunked Pizzagate: ..."debunked by the Metropolitan Police Department of the District of Columbia". My question is when did they investigate this? And what if anything was found? Could this investigation have been tainted as it was performed on one of the 50 most powerful people in their district?
If you live in the D.C. you help to fund this group and I believe your questions (should you have any) warrant answers. Also in today's climate where City Police are receiving funding from the Federal Government I believe all citizens are entitled to answers. If Snopes and The NYT want to claim this is debunked that is their business. But if a government organization wants to go on record as saying definitively that no wrong doing has been done than I think we deserve answers.
We should implore the Metropolitan Police Department of the District of Columbia to demand that the Wiki be edited or demand that they tell us why they are on the record for debunking this.
Common sense would dictate that they proceed with caution. For example they could state that they have looked into the matter but do not have any evidence of wrongdoing at this time. And encouraging people to contact them if they have any evidence that is relevant. -That is a far way from saying after looking into this we find that the allegations are false...which is what 'debunking' means.
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AreWeSure ago
Police are not obligated to investigate unsubstantiated rumors. Particularly for a business that has been open for almost a decade with no parents or customers making any sort of charge like this.
What should get the police involved?
Many emails used the term pizza? A girl has masking tape on her arms? They make sick jokes? I think Marina Abramovic is a witch? An anonymous poster on 4chan said....?
What concrete evidence is there that should get the state involved?
SpikyAube ago
Well, usually concrete evidence is what is found during an investigation, not before. Beforehand there is suspicion and maybe a bit of circumstantial evidence or a witness statement. What there usually is, is a crime having known to have taken place. At the time the shooter went into CPP there was not one specific crime that could be pointed to. But I'm pretty sure that sine 9/11 the police have powers to investigate people in the absence of a specific crime if they have demonstrated unusual activity that may point to crimes going on, for example suspicious messages online or emails that could indicate a possible terrorist plot, or drug trafficking, or any other organised crime, such as a pedophile ring.
Since the shooter incident, though, there has been at least one person who has come forward as a victim of Alefantis, and they even have emails that prove the connection between them and definitely imply that the assault took place. That is more than enough to warrant an investigation.
Just think, if Pizzagate wasn't about elite pedophilia and was instead about terrorists or alt-right groups and political activists being accused by the Internet public as working for the Russians, with ties to Republican politicians who were actually secret Russian agents, and the citizens investigation had turned up code words in Republican emails that seemed to be to do with Russia and spying on the US, and instagram pictures from all these people linked to Rep politicians that often symbolically and sometimes outright referenced Russia in a favourable light, and there were videos of some of these people talking and joking about being Russian spies, and basically all the same things that have been discovered through Pizzagate, but replace Pedo with Russian agents - do you really think that they wouldn't be all over that in a hot second? That the press wouldn't be reporting on it non-stop, the police wouldn't be going in to CPP to have a thorough search etc?
The only reason they're not investigating is because they're covering it up. We all know they would easily get a warrant based on all the same circumstantial evidence if the alleged crimes were terrorist plots or spies etc.
AreWeSure ago
The term you are looking for is probable cause. There still is none.
Since the shooter incident, though, there has been at least one person who has come forward as a victim of Alefantis
Not true. Nobody has gone to police. Reddit ain't a police report. Why would the cops even know about those allegations?
SpikyAube ago
The guy Alefantis threatened on the phone made a police report.
AreWeSure ago
That's not the same thing as being a victim. Personally I don't think that's real. That would legit be big news.
WorkSmarter ago
I don't know if "We" are sure but I strongly suspect you aren't. Which I why I asked you the questions below. I am highly suspicious of what you are doing here. Healthy skepticism is crucial but I do not think that's what you are offering.