I like the idea of 'Investigate Pizzagate'. I use that a lot in defining this. The fact it rhymes and has a resounding ring makes it hard to forget. I do feel this idea needs a tiny bit of rounding out. I would add an element that directs others where to begin investigating. Like a business card that says Investigate Pizzagate and below it, suggestions such as 'join Voat'.
I think it's a good slogan too because the media has yet to actually instigate PG. This slogan is catchy, and it tells the people to investigate it themselves. Only downside is I'm sure Google, Twitter, and FB would find a way to either nix the phrase or only make their version of "news" show up whenever someone searches for it.
Agree! Just don't actually directly link them to Voat. It has too much baggge and isn't exactly "newbie" friendly, especially to older people who don't visited forums much or at all. We need a professional website with all the information from Voat compiled into one nice, easy-to-understand, and non-partisan website.
Voat needs to be one source of several. It is unrealistic to have a new website that is capable of providing everything needed to promote it above any others in time for what they are wanting to do here, imo. Voat will be here even if pizzagate is a forbidden word. That is my reason for including it on a list.
It should not be "directly" linked. Like it or not, Voat has too much baggage to its name and that is what the media will focus on. This is why I never link people to Voat when they ask about PG, it turns them off instantly. You can still have the sources and evidence linking back to this place, and eventually they will find out about Voat regardless, but when we're trying to get a bunch of curious people to believe PG and take it seriously, Voat should NOT be the first thing they are linked to.
Definitely not saying it is the first thing. Among the few dozen people I talk with about pizzagate, I was the only one who even knew about Voat. They all learned other places. As for a new website to organize it all, a new one is out there. I just don't see that as being operational and proven dependable in time for what is being discussed here. Besides Voat, my main sources are You Tube and Facebook. How about you? It's so sad we have to even worry about this. The information should be easily available from reliable media sources. Good luck with that.
I think when talking to friends it's okay to mention Voat. Even though my friends were initially turned off, since we are friends, they trusted me and gave it a chance. But, this demonstration could reach thousands or even millions (if it's big enough) and most people will not simply go here if they already have a negative opinion of it. If they haven't heard of it, the media will waste no time declaring it a right wing conspiracy website.
I know there are a few other websites out there, but all the ones I have seen always have some political bent to it, and/or they are poorly organized. It would not take long or cost much to create a simple site that has all the information from here, just without the stigma.
It is sad we have to worry about this. I just want to save these kids, and I worry if things aren't easy-to-understand and organized, people won't take it seriously. :(
Exactly. We need to save the children. The things that go along with that are imperative. Fixing the foster care program, traffikking, satanism...there are so many seperate issues. And the problem is so big. Making it short and to the point is an almost impossible task.
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Z11Mama ago
I like the idea of 'Investigate Pizzagate'. I use that a lot in defining this. The fact it rhymes and has a resounding ring makes it hard to forget. I do feel this idea needs a tiny bit of rounding out. I would add an element that directs others where to begin investigating. Like a business card that says Investigate Pizzagate and below it, suggestions such as 'join Voat'.
ConcernedParent2 ago
I think it's a good slogan too because the media has yet to actually instigate PG. This slogan is catchy, and it tells the people to investigate it themselves. Only downside is I'm sure Google, Twitter, and FB would find a way to either nix the phrase or only make their version of "news" show up whenever someone searches for it.
Z11Mama ago
Business cards suggesting places to learn for themselves could lead to places like Voat to help people avoid that.
ConcernedParent2 ago
Agree! Just don't actually directly link them to Voat. It has too much baggge and isn't exactly "newbie" friendly, especially to older people who don't visited forums much or at all. We need a professional website with all the information from Voat compiled into one nice, easy-to-understand, and non-partisan website.
Z11Mama ago
Voat needs to be one source of several. It is unrealistic to have a new website that is capable of providing everything needed to promote it above any others in time for what they are wanting to do here, imo. Voat will be here even if pizzagate is a forbidden word. That is my reason for including it on a list.
ConcernedParent2 ago
It should not be "directly" linked. Like it or not, Voat has too much baggage to its name and that is what the media will focus on. This is why I never link people to Voat when they ask about PG, it turns them off instantly. You can still have the sources and evidence linking back to this place, and eventually they will find out about Voat regardless, but when we're trying to get a bunch of curious people to believe PG and take it seriously, Voat should NOT be the first thing they are linked to.
Z11Mama ago
Definitely not saying it is the first thing. Among the few dozen people I talk with about pizzagate, I was the only one who even knew about Voat. They all learned other places. As for a new website to organize it all, a new one is out there. I just don't see that as being operational and proven dependable in time for what is being discussed here. Besides Voat, my main sources are You Tube and Facebook. How about you? It's so sad we have to even worry about this. The information should be easily available from reliable media sources. Good luck with that.
ConcernedParent2 ago
I think when talking to friends it's okay to mention Voat. Even though my friends were initially turned off, since we are friends, they trusted me and gave it a chance. But, this demonstration could reach thousands or even millions (if it's big enough) and most people will not simply go here if they already have a negative opinion of it. If they haven't heard of it, the media will waste no time declaring it a right wing conspiracy website.
I know there are a few other websites out there, but all the ones I have seen always have some political bent to it, and/or they are poorly organized. It would not take long or cost much to create a simple site that has all the information from here, just without the stigma.
It is sad we have to worry about this. I just want to save these kids, and I worry if things aren't easy-to-understand and organized, people won't take it seriously. :(
Z11Mama ago
Exactly. We need to save the children. The things that go along with that are imperative. Fixing the foster care program, traffikking, satanism...there are so many seperate issues. And the problem is so big. Making it short and to the point is an almost impossible task.