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Votescam ago

Recall that our US government was involved in kidnapping Native American children and forcing them into "Church schools" run by Mormon Church and RCC Church. Sadly, these children were brain-washed there, prevented from speaking their own language, their clothing and hair changed to Western European styles. Christian religion forced on them. In these Church schools these children were beaten, tortured, hung, raped, sexually abused, murdered. This was still going on into more modern times. But, also from the earliest times of US genocide vs Native Americans. The attempts to "Enslave them, or kill them" according to Papal Edicts ... the cruel and brutal violence against them reminiscent of the Inquisition. (Same for Africans enslaved here, of course.) http://www.amnestyusa.org/node/87342

All Mind Control is based in FEAR -- First you invent a boogie man -- i.e., "Satan" and "Hell" and then you base a male-supremacist religion on it. Which, by the way demonized women/mothers of children -- ran "Witch Hunts" against them -- "Burned Witches at the Stake" -- on and on in a war on females.
The self-created "god" proclaims that males "are superior" and females "inferior." The religion has a long list of enemies beyond females -- Jews, Native Americans, Pagans, Africans/Enslaved in US, Homosexuals. In Hawaii long ago, Homosexuals were held in esteem for taking care of orphaned children. Organized patriarchal religions have warred on homosexuals.

The Old Religion which existed long before the Old Testament, the New Testament, Hebrew religion, RCC, Islam -- did not have a "Satan" nor a "Hell." Those things are the creation of male-supremacist religion.

Neither do is Wicca/Women's Wisdom support a belief in Satan nor Hell. Their motto is "No gods above/No gods below." Their beliefs are based in Nature, as well -- in particularly knowledge of plants as our medicines.

DL4L ago

You speak very generally on what are already broad topics, and with little relevance to the specifics of global child ritual and sexual abuse. Here, I am referring to systematic, multi-generational, finely tuned mind control programming of children based on torture, ritual sex abuse, drugs, hypnosis, and other advanced forms of conditioning. Not 'FEAR'. Yes, of course these things create fear in a person but this issue is far more complex than that. And to these individuals engaging in this type of abuse as a part of their spiritual tradition, there is no invention of evil entities. You are talking about how you understand and see the world, which from how you write I gather is at least partly through a feminist/wiccan perspective concerned with male domination. Understood. But I am talking about how they understand the world. It is ok that they are different, and I am not slandering wiccans with what I'm saying, nor disagreeing that we live in a male-dominated society. The people I refer to believe Satan, Lucifer, Baphomet, etc are all members of a hierarchy and have existed since creation. Like Christians have saints, angels, arch-angels, etc... there is a similar understanding/hierarchy within Luciferianism, Satanism, and the like.

Votescam ago

DLAL -- I attempted to show where the belief in "Satan" and "Satanic rituals" arise -- and it is with male-supremacist religions. NOT with the Old Religion based in Nature and NOT with Wicca/Women's wisdom. It is important for the public to know that and understand that.

What comes later is prologue. The beginning of it all has to be known.

It also ignored the involvement of the CIA/MK ULTRA/Monarch Project -- the goal was Mind Control MKUltra used numerous methodologies to manipulate people's mental states and alter brain functions, including the surreptitious administration of drugs (especially LSD) and other chemicals, hypnosis,[10] sensory deprivation, isolation,** verbal and sexual abuse, as well as other forms of psychological torture**.[11][12] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra

If you're familiar with Franklin Case, then you know the survivors talk about being part of the MKULTRA program and being tortured physically. Some of the survivors were kidnapped as children, some were turned over by fathers who had already been sexually abusing them -- and were often rewarded financially. See: Kathy O'Brien/YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pzp6VR7zJ8 Also true of what Noreen Gosch came to know about the abduction of her son, Johnny. http://johnnygosch.com/aboutNoreen.htm

The MKULTRA program sought to create multiple personalities which could also be programmed. These children were used as drug runners, homosexual prostitutes, and for espionage/blackmail. Cathy O'Brien also covers that reality in her video.

Yes, it is generational -- and, yes, some who were tortured and sexually abused with also do the same to others. Some will not. Children are highly vulnerable to this kind of family betrayal and, of course, children have no way of understanding the history of the invention of "Satan" -- or that Satan is not real when their own family is involved in Lucifer's worship.

It is NOT OK that they are different because there are victims involved -- people who are brainwashed from youth will certainly "believe" things that are untrue. That's why the brainwashing occurs.

And some of us recognize that "Christian's saints are actually pagan figures originally" who were converted into "saints." And, again, most of "Christianity" comes via "Introducing the Cross with the Sword."

It is violence which moved these male-supremacist religions into place and only violence and domination can keep them going. However, more and more members are walking away from these religions as the come to know the truth about them.

People believe many things -- (like moon landings) until free speech and new information allows them to begin to challenge these myths.

Recall that the Old Testament is written to cement patriarchy -- and what "Jesus" is doing is rebelling against patriarchy and many of its concepts.

The Global scandals being investigated now in many countries -- Norway, Belgium, Australia, Canada, etc. -- are very important . . . but past investigations and past scandals also have to be made known and understood in order to understand it all.
Spain - 300,000 missing children stolen over a 40 year period ... even into the 1990's. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2049647/BBC-documentary-exposes-50-year-scandal-baby-trafficking-Catholic-church-Spain.html And in all of these scandals "church" (male-supremacist religions) are involved. Let's trust as well that the investigations going forward now will find the links between those involved which will show the true global nature of these crimes.

DL4L ago

Well said Vote, let us indeed hope these connections continue to rise to the surface.