This is a follow up post to my original.
After the enormous amount of help and information I recieved from the community here I feel it is neccessary to post my findings.
The alleged sexual assault victim of James A. was and has been verified as being who he says he is (picture is really him). This would also make the emails he provided between him an James A. real. Theres emails are the smoking gun in the the last one has James A. responding with "OK" in that he is agreement that he cause the victim PTSD, the victim also STATES THAT JAMES DRUGGED HIM AND HAD SEX WITH HIM. This needs to spread as much as possible.
Help is needed to find any photos of the victim at Comet or any proof of him working there. Please help, we are so close.
Below are the links to the screen shots of emails between James A. and the victim and also the verified identity of the victim.
http://archive.is/TYZBW - Picture of James alleged sexual assault victim --- http://archive.is/9bHUm - Reddit MOD stating he verified the victims identity ------ https://archive.is/2hQSv - Victim answering questions on reddit
https://steemit.com/pizzagate/@abortionburger/victim-comes-forward-i-was-sexually-assaulted-by-james-alefantis - More verification of the victims identity.
Someone sent me this might mean something to someone - http://archive.is/jmug4 -they commented; Is this the same guy copying u in dood @weillington33
JamesMissingEmail ago
Is there any way you can supply these peoples names? It would really add to the credibility of this.
salinaslayer ago
poor kid
wellington33 ago
I don't understand your question OP, could you remake it in a more understandable way to me? :S I'm not american, english is not my first lang, sorry.
reasonedandinformed ago
Beware...this may be a CTR troll digging for info to help JA the target.He is fishing rather than helping to build the case.
madmanpg ago
This is why I made a post asking for a rule about all-caps titles over in the pizzagatemods sub. Right now I've just got some jackass telling me that such a rule is "reddit-style", when anyone who's been on the internet for any length of time knows that's the rule anywhere you go.
ScottKnight ago
Allegations like this should be treated as true until proven wrong
ScottKnight ago
I dont understand the comments. We work on circumstancial evidence. and How can he prove he was sexually assaulted, by showing a rip in his asshole?
reasonedandinformed ago
Beware...this may be a CTR troll digging for info to help JA the target.He is fishing rather than helping to build the case.
downwithpizzaelite ago
James obviously knows who it is..
dreamdigital ago
I don't feel this post should be deleted, it simply needs further investigation. There have been good suggestions. An AMA would work for this. Also, check stubs proving this person worked at Comet. However, I know check stubs were provided and people dismissed them. Does anyone know the validity of these? They look legit to me, then again, I could fake those in photoshop or illustrator... or even Microsoft Word for that matter if I knew the general lay out of a check stub.
CPP Check Stub
Possible Check Check Stub Template
FriesischShipping ago
To be in possession of a smoking gun in Pizzagate would mean that you're breaking the law for being in possession of James Alefantis's child porn.
Jakestr ago
I hope the mods will delete this there's nothing new in this email and the title is very offputting
downwithpizzaelite ago
It wouldn't exist if the fucking cunt mods didn't ban the guy from voat within a half hour..
nelsonthecat ago
"This would also make the emails he provided between him an James A. real"
simply wrong
Konran ago
There are quite a lot of things regarding this that come off as 'simply wrong'.
Huge leaps of faith are being used to validate most of what is being claimed; he verifies he is the AMA poster by displaying a photo with his username before the AMA starts - true.
Then a reddit mod confirms who he says he is (how does a reddit mod do that? I don't trust anyone since they fired Victoria) - so first leap of faith.
OP says this now means the emails must be real. Huh? Second large leap of faith.
It is claimed that Alefantis writing 'OK' to the alleged accusations is now an admission of guilt. Third leap of faith (possible confirmation bias although more conjecture and wishful thinking to mislead is also possible).
Taking the OPs word for it all and help circulate this 'information'. Fourth and final gigantic leap of faith.
Anyway, I'm not jumping until there's some actual substance to make me want to jump.
[EDIT: Lyrical adjustments]
Fateswebb ago
Oh he can still be charged for it...
Criminal Prosecution for Sexual Abuse The criminal statute of limitations in Washington D.C. is actually much more lenient than the civil counterpart. First or second degree sexual abuse of a child has a 15 year statute of limitations that does not begin to run until the victim is 21 years of age. Incest, recording child pornography, and sexual abuse of a ward or patient all have a window of 10 years. Moreover, if the victim is a ward or patient of the abuser, the statute of limitations will not begin to run, regardless of age, until the victim is no longer in such a relationship with the abuser. The reason for the delay is because SOL will not start ticking until the crime is completed, and where the individual is still under the care of an abuser, the abuse is deemed to be potentially on-going, therefore giving victims more time to come forward. - See more at: http://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/washington-dcs-statute-of-limitations-on-sex-abuse.html#sthash.YccJDREA.dpuf
Fateswebb ago
If the AMA victim were to give us the email headers and if they have tkim signatures we can then validate the emails ourselves and know for sure. Even if they don't have tkim signatures the headers would still help his case. But if they have TKIM then we can prove without a doubt if they are real.
wincraft71 ago
Yes! Finally it gets called out. Regular people see ILLUMINATI MIND CONTROLLED SEX SLAVES COULD THIS BE PIZZAGATE??!!! I THINK I FOUND THE SMOKING GUN!!
And tune out right there. Some titles may be accidental, but honestly this could be a tactic to make the front page off-putting to those new people coming here for the first time, quickly writing it off as crazy rather than well-organized and composed.
1223344556677888 ago
Yes that's pizzagate. The reason they want people with Pax6 mutations is because of their lineage.
Cannibalism is used as part of the trauma process. James is likely a nazi CIA handler, does he know Michael Aquino?
SChalice ago
FLAT SUN BEAMS COMMANDS DIRECTLY INTO KIM JONG UN'S CENTRAL DATABASE
1223344556677888 ago
Sunbeams are always at a right angle.
Aaanndgo ago
I've found the alleged victim on Facebook but I'm very sceptical that this isn't some trolling or paid fuckery. If the victim is serious, then I hope he contacted the FBI to support their investigation. If he would be willing to do a proper AMA with voat, I think that would be the only way for us to keep investigating this.
downwithpizzaelite ago
Keep this on the down low, probably delete it. Don't make it any harder on him than it already is.
Fateswebb ago
He was willing to do an AMA on voat, he came to voat and started to do the AMA, and a mod deleted the post which in turn scared the guy off probably because we came off as dicks that don't care. I don't really blame him.
crystalclearme ago
I've a problem with this in that it could possibly screw up any law enforcement investigation. We don't need to be convinced- the person or people need to either contact law enforcement &/or find a therapist. A therapist, as a mandated reporter, could reasonably file a suspicion of child abuse. Even if the police or CPS don't investigate as it is in the past- a report will be logged and any future calls would bring it up.
AreWeSure ago
I don't follow this. Why would it make the emails real?
Dejure ago
Ya tough to tell if this is intentional misdirection or not, not on the part of the OP, but whoever started the communication. Time will tell
iamthepizzanow ago
Thanks for that.
Salicaz ago
All this subs titles are like that it seems.
quantokitty ago
I think it's up to the alleged victim to come forward with proof. It's not like salaries can't be traced back to places of employment. In terms of Statutes of Limitations: SOL for 1st- and 2nd-degree offenses is 15 years. SOL for 3rd- and 4th-degree offenses is 10 years. But the victim alleges the assault caused him PTSD. If this is true, JA could, theoretically, be sued in civil court where the standard of proof is much lower. Given the charges, the jury in this case might still require a high threshold of proof. If the victim wants to speak out, he can and should. Not necessarily here. I think he should contact an attorney and see about the SOL. If criminal charges can be filed, then he should do that. If they can't he should go with a civil case. If he then wanted support, he could come to a forum like this. I don't know what happened. If this is true, it's horrible. It's equally horrible to allege things that aren't true so ... I think if he files charges, he'll gain major validity.
rooting4redpillers ago
I can't figure out exactly what it is he wants here. Emotional support and/or validation without providing real proof? If it's those things, while we are caring people, this just doesn't belong here on this subverse. If he's holding on to real proof that he was sexually assaulted by James A, and after years, has decided "go public" with it, he needs to stop talking about this online. IF this story is true, and IF proof exists, then publicly dropping partial info is a lawsuit, or assisted suicide, looking to happen. True or false, continuing this here is reckless. I recommend, as this victim's priorities one, two, three - get off the internet, get counseling, get a lawyer.
projection ago
Ditto.
quantokitty ago
Definitely. Maybe putting it on the internet was the first step? Like dipping your toe in and testing the water? Maybe he wasn't sure he'd be believed, but it's really about the evidence. At this point, talk to an attorney. Hire the best he can and make sure the attorney is not in the back pocket of Podesta & Co. Counseling would definitely help. As for the internet, if it helps to post updates, yes. But once you file a case ... and it's active ... you're not allowed to talk about it. So maybe a page where he can give updates and people can show support for what he's going through. Yes, there would be haters. If he can't handle nasty, ugly remarks, then he shouldn't do it, but if it's his page, just delete them. I would keep things public at the point I filed just to make sure someone else (wonder who?) didn't spin his narrative in the direction he wanted, but yeah. If you were drugged and assaulted, file either a criminal complaint or civil case. That's why he needs a lawyer.
crystalclearme ago
I hope anyone who was a victim of JA or knows anyone who was even possibly victimized will follow your advice immediately.
Hooliganscat ago
The guy can go to his bank and ask for paychecks showing he worked there
dreamdigital ago
That is actually the best suggestion about this guys validity so far. Seriously that is exactly what this person should do. And I also think we should allow and AMA with this guy WITHOUT the MODS bloody deleting it. We need to get to the bottom of this
I'm also with the other users here when it comes to this poster. His account was 28 min. old and it was just all wrong how he made his post, asking for the e-mails. The thing is, if he knew about the e-mails, he should have known really where to find them. Which, maybe he heard he could find them on VOAT. Either way, we need to rule this out.
I've read the e-mails several times, and I will say that I think the person who's Allegedly James Alefantis really does seem like James.
MAGABoomer ago
Proving that he worked there is simple enough. If he was working above the table the SSadmin would have history of that and he can probably request it.
Run2Christ ago
Hey, just to add my own info to this thread. I can confirm that the guy in the pic holding up the paper is the emailer namesbear. Namesbear is the email address on the jpegs that show the conversation between them and alefantis.I have tracked down a picture of him without him having to post it. In my opinion i think there is some validty to the claims. Is it ok to post video links in here? as i done some digging and would like you all to hear the analysis i did.
Run2Christ ago
This is part one. Watch that first. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgh8Ak2Gby8&t=3s
Part two https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MjaM8Vtiio
If this is not allowed, please remove, but i would ask you all to look them up on my youtube (same name)
srayzie ago
I don't trust this poster. I think he or she is a shill or knows Alefantis. He has only been here for 2 days. He made an account right after the victim of JA came forward. He was desperate to get ahold of the emails between James and the victim the other day and kept saying he was going to call his lawyer. He has sent me several rude messages. So be careful with this guy.
pitenius ago
While you need victims (or at least their names) to prosecute, remember what DeKamp (of the Franklin Coverup) said regarding "beware relying on victims", since they can be manipulated (and already have been). There's another strategy of conviction here, if you're willing to let go of a crushing victory.
Somevoatguy ago
That photo is a bit suspect with the smirk, looks like a troll to me.
Intheknow ago
I totally agree
iamthepizzanow ago
Agreed. If it's not true and takes off it will make our cause look pretty bad.
SlackeryTurnBull ago
How can you verify an identity of someone who wishes to remain anonymous? I glanced through all the stuff and all I saw was a picture of some dude proving that he was the guy who posted on the Reddit AMA. That doesn't connect him with Alefantis, or does it? Besides his story about Alefantis' business partner who departed around the time the person says something happened is there anything else? Theoretically someone could have come up with that if they were clever enough.
JamesMissingEmail ago
This needs exposure - that is the only way people will ever know if its 100% true.