Alefantis mentions "The Farm". CIA director says their "pedophile academy" in Virginia is known as "The Farm" (resubmission) (pizzagate)

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1950s: Origins of the CIA's "Pedophile Academy"

“Oh we do have our stable of weird people working for us. Did I ever tell you about the Pedophile Academy? We actually had one down at Camp Peary, (in Virginia) right near (the CIA’s) Jim Critchfield’s place. I don’t know if you’re aware of it, but we called it ‘The Farm,’ and it was supposed to be a secret training center for young agents. Allen Dulles set up this training center down there for pedophiles. They were in training to seduce, molest, and most especially photograph the young children of targets. Not only, Allen reasoned, would our graduates have a spanking good time but they could get wonderful action photos of the wee ones to blackmail their families with. I understand they broke it up when one of the graduates nailed a (CIA) Deputy Director’s son at a summer camp.”

  • Robert Crowley, CIA Domestic Contracts Division 1959-1962; Assistant Deputy Director of Operations (ADDO) 1980

Source: 50 years of CIA history with top "Company" man Robert Crowley: JFK, RFK, MLK, guns, drugs, blackmail, coups and all the rest

Here is the author's Wikispooks page: https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Jo%C3%ABl_van_der_Reijden

Is it possible Alefantis was referring to "The Farm"? (And, when the CIA claims an operation is closed, are they always telling the truth?)

"That little baby loved the farm"

https://i0.wp.com/archive.is/sS4hO/afd6e022b26d2340287dc788fdd61776d007b485.png?w=700

That little baby looks haunted.

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fetuspizza ago

For Context, I believed "The Farm", was mentioned. The Farm is where young recruits go to train. I don't believe it's the name of the pedo academy, but was just used as a reference for the training camp near it.

Gorillion ago

Yeah, "The Farm" has been name dropped in countless TV shows, spy novels and movies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Peary

Camp Peary is an approximately 9,000 acre military reservation in York County near Williamsburg, Virginia. Officially referred to as an Armed Forces Experimental Training Activity (AFETA) under the auspices of the Department of Defense, Camp Peary hosts a covert CIA training facility known as "The Farm," which is used to train officers of CIA's Directorate of Operations, as well as those of the DIA's Defense Clandestine Service,[1] among other intelligence entities. Camp Peary has a sister facility, "The Point," located in Hertford, North Carolina.

The Farm

Camp Peary is known as "The Farm," a training facility run by the Central Intelligence Agency for the purpose of training CIA's clandestine officers, as well as officers of other organizations specializing in clandestine activities, such as the Defense Intelligence Agency. The existence of this facility is widely known, but has never been formally acknowledged by the U.S. government. Access to Camp Peary is strictly controlled, and all visitors to the installation on official business are escorted at all times. The portion of the original World War II Seabee base that is north of Interstate 64 has remained closed to the public since 1951. However, the roads and many structures of Magruder and Bigler's Mill are still there and many are occupied. An airport with a 5,000-foot (1,500 m) runway was added to the facility near the site of Bigler's Mill. Flight records show that at least 11 aircraft that appear to be owned by CIA front companies, and are believed to have been used as rendition aircraft by the CIA under the guise of charter flights have landed on this runway. [3]

Former CIA officer Bill Wagner attended a three-week interrogation course at The Farm in 1970. He claims that it was the agency's "premier course," and that volunteers played the role of interrogation subjects in order to be guaranteed seats in future classes. Interrogators-in-training practiced techniques such as sleep deprivation, deliberately tainted food, and mock executions. According to Wagner, the course was dropped from the CIA training curriculum after the Watergate scandal, due to increased attention being paid to CIA practices.[4]

Okay, so at least by 1970 everyone was calling it "The Farm".

From OP:

Robert Crowley, CIA Domestic Contracts Division 1959-1962

Possibly these guys nicknamed the Pedo training facility "The Farm" first and the name stuck thereafter, and no-one knew about the pedo shit? It looks like the interview was from 1980 or thereabouts and I'll say that yeah, from memory, mentions of "The Farm" weren't a thing on TV back then. Stuff like Silence of the Lambs made all that stuff popular and Thomas Harris was one of the earlier, if not earliest, writers to use this sort of "investigative craft lore". Psychological Profiling only became known in the popular sense after John Douglas wrote Mindhunter, and Harris based Will Graham in Red Dragon off that. Douglas basically pioneered the science.

Nana66 ago

Someday we will find out what Area 51 really is too.