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smokemirrors ago

Been discussed many times on here. Don't know if you're a Brit or American but google the "Chipping Norton Set" to see who's protecting who, over there.

The British culture/humor is very off-beat and in-bred, with crude sexist, racist, pedo, gay jokes the absolute norm. the 70s/80s were the absolute worst in terms of zero political correctness and pederasty. Authority and institutions everywhere were absolutely corrupt. You have to be from there or have lived there for at least five years or more to truly 'get it'.

This is the society that had bare breasts on the front pages of family newspapers for decades: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Page_3

These crude soft porn humo(u)r films were popular for years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carry_On_(franchise)

An example of common lads humo(u)r still prevailing today: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4078082/British-stag-party-shocks-onlookers-dressing-Jimmy-Savile-Rolf-Harris-Oscar-Pistorius-complete-Reeva-Steenkamp-s-body.html

Yeah, the Brits are truly one of a kind.

SpikyAube ago

Hey they are not all like that at all. Those people who dressed up that way made the news because it was seen as so offensive. The paper with the breasts is utterly horrendous, most people in the UK do not read it, in fact a whole city, Liverpool, 8th biggest city in the whole UK, will not read it and only spell its name with a * for the middle letter, nowhere in the city will sell it because of how awful it is, and because it was involved in a cover up of a huge football disaster in the 80s in which nearly 100 people died.

If you see someone reading that paper, it is basically the certificate for a qualification in extreme stupidity. Carry On films were a bit cheeky I don't think they are anywhere near comparable to child abuse and pedophilia. Every country has their stupid ignorant gross rude mean violent sex pest people. Granted, in the UK those are the people that make up the government, but not the whole country is like that! As with anywhere, most people are lovely, but loveliness doesn't get you as much attention unfortunately.

Toogi23 ago

Its true about the sun. Vile paper. Many taxis have adverts in some towns with 'don't buy the sun' plastered on them. There's a group on twitter called 'stop funding hate and a hastag to match. Lego recently stated they won't be funding hate and no longer advertise in the daily mail another deplorable read. We fight it here too. Edit: we often will look at these papers to 'know thy enemy' so the fact that someone is reading one means nothing... You got to listen in to the noise otherwise you can't use it against them. Some readers are simply researching. Others unfortunately treat it like a truth... Gah...

SpikyAube ago

I can't bring myself to read them even for research, it makes me feel so awful and angry and helpless and upset. I don't get why people seem to think freedom of the press means 'freedom to lie in order to pursue the agenda of the billionaire boss by manipulating public opinion.' I have no idea why the Leveson inquiry didn't go anywhere, you'd think that a democratically elected government would welcome the opportunity to establish some ethical controls on the press, you know, protect journalists' integrity and ability to report freely and honestly, AND protect the public from being harassed, lied about, spied on etc by journalists, AND to ensure that the media cannot simply print outright lies, which are only retracted later in tiny writing on the back page that nobody reads. It would also be good if journalists, broadcasters, media moguls etc, were prohibited by law from interacting socially with politicians, or in any capacity other than work related information exchange.

It's just so obvious there is no free press in the UK, the US and many Western 'democracies.' Just because it's a couple of international billionaire businessmen that a control the media, and not the government, doesn't mean the press is free. It's even worse, really, because the people who decide what reality we think we live in aren't even elected and often don\t even live in the countries they pollute with their toxic disinformation. Gah...

smokemirrors ago

yes Brits can be lovely too, but this isn't a discussion about the good side of different cultures and nations.

SpikyAube ago

Yes very true, but we need to sometimes stop and remember that loveliness is out there, otherwise we might get too gloomy.

smokemirrors ago

I love gloom.