The Alefantis Facebook Messenger video is fake and you can verify it yourself very easily. Here is how. (pizzagate)

submitted ago by Throwaway24398021

Earlier, someone posted a link to a video where they reproduce a fake messenger conversation with Alefantis.

Here's the thing. Above the Facebook chat box, there are a few icons. When you message someone on Facebook who isn't your friend, the video and audio icons are greyed out, because you can't video call or audio call people who aren't your friends. The icons look like they look in the "faking" video. In the "verification" video, guess what? The icons are not greyed out. For some reason, he can start a video or audio call with this guy who is not his friend (and clearly has pretty high privacy settings).

Try it out yourself. Open a chat box with a friend and a stranger on Facebook. Notice the difference.

He's edited a chat he had with a friend using the method described in the video. He's taking you for a ride. Don't fall for it.

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BlueTesla ago

Nice job, i should have seen this earlier but couldn't watch the video at work. That just about does it, this one is debunked. edit: tested this on my phone, you're actually wrong. Once somebody has accepted your message request you can call them. Even without being friends. Try it. I will post a screebshot when i get to my pc.

Millennial_Falcon ago

Okie dokie. Flairing OP as debunked!

creep ago

I don't see how a call for skepticism should be tagged as "debunked". We should all be skeptical because the "evidence" is all flimsy at best. All we have to go on is the video guy's word. And the fact he is selling merchandise, and even shills it at the end of his video should be a massive red flag.

Millennial_Falcon ago

It's not a general call for skepticism. It's a specific claim, which has been disproven.

creep ago

But surely you can see how this might look on the front page?

  1. Joe Lurker sees original Threat Video at the top of the page with no flair, assumes it's real.
  2. Joe Lurker sees this skeptical post on the front page with "debunked" flair, assumes Threat Video has been proven to be true.

Investigate1999 ago

People should probably just repost another sceptical post. It doesn't have to be this post.

Sentastixc ago

Yeah, flair the original accuracy in question, maybe? What do you think @Millenial_Falcon

Throwaway24398021 ago

I've made an edit. I still don't trust the guy pushing an online merch store given the extremely limited information he's provided, but I guess a real conversation is indistinguishable in this regard at least.

Edit: I think it's worth remembering this doesn't prove it was real. It's still very, very easy to fake the evidence he's provided. It wouldn't have been hard for him to just scroll up to the "James Alefantis accepted your message request" section of the conversation. Come on, how likely is it that Alefantis, smart enough to successfully run multiple covers for human trafficking, would be dumb enough to publically utter death threats over a recordable medium? Why is he using the word "shill"? Really?

Millennial_Falcon ago

Yeah, I saw. By the way I was referring to the post when I said "OP," not you (submitter).

Throwaway24398021 ago

You sure? Facebook themselves say otherwise.

BlueTesla ago

Yes check out this screenshot I just took of this dude who was jealous I was speaking to his girlfriend, note it says "you and aaron aren't connected on facebook" because we are not friends. Once I replied to his message I got a notification to tell me 'you accepted aarons message request' and now I am able to phone him.

Edit: also http://i.imgur.com/AcCJTyC.png

Throwaway24398021 ago

Ahhh, ok. Looks like Facebook's policy page is out of date.

BlueTesla ago

We should still be suspicious though, I think we all just want to believe.

ProudTruther ago

That's true but seeing as how every other conspiracy has come true why not this one. The kid made some mistakes but I hope and think his heart is in the right place and he really has contacted JA.

It does seem like even more legit evidence that these people wouldn't want out. A sketchy as museum of nothing owned by JA? this shit keeps getting crazier and crazier.

Fateswebb ago

Can you show it on computer? Hmm I'm seeing the icon but it's slightly greeted out and says so and so is unavailable for calls when you mouse over it. But I'm not sure if that user can do video calls maybe they have it disabled or something. I would like to confirm if this is true for sure.

BlueTesla ago

http://i.imgur.com/AcCJTyC.png Here you go, it even says 'start a video call' when you hover over it. You must message eachother first before it becomes available.

Fateswebb ago

Thanks, so then the claim to have spoken with jimmycomet is not debunked.

BlueTesla ago

http://i.imgur.com/AcCJTyC.png Also on the browser you can even see 'start a voice call with Aaron'... thanks Aaron :)