https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZQxYQ49p0U&t=3s
Watch this video and then ask yourselves
This guy spoke to Alefantis TWICE and didn't record it? He even "threatens" this guy on the phone call we that was never recorded. This is the same guy trying to profit off this.
All I'm saying is don't be so quick to believe this. For all we know this guy could be staging this and trying to scare people or create fake news or who knows.
Give me your thoughts.
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seekingtruth2016 ago
I haven't been here in a while, but this whole situation very much caught my attention and I'm compelled to respond.
Does this guy really expect us to believe that out of all the people who have likely tried to contact JA, he was the ONE lucky person to not only get a response, but also somehow manages to get him on the phone? I'm sorry, but this whole story is outlandish and highly implausible if you use logical reasoning. For those of you who think that this situation is simply too complex to be a hoax, nowadays this is a job that any technically apt person can do within a few hours. I also agree with those of you who find it strange how he chose not to record any subsequent conversations and also continues to post videos about this experience even though he was supposedly "threatened" by JA and forced to take down the previous posts for fear of his life. That is a pretty strong indication that this whole thing is a huge hoax.
Use your brains people! And shame on you PizzaGateGear for trying to profit off this issue!
samhara ago
How many other people actually tried to contact him? I'd think, not many.
seekingtruth2016 ago
Seriously? Any good investigator would at least try to get information from the source. It's a bit unbelievable to think that out of all the great researchers on and off this site only a handful of people have attempted to message JA through social media or other avenues.
samhara ago
Can you name some ? What would you gain? We have no power of compelling answers. Do you expect him to answer truthfully?
This is not the New York Times, who needs to look or a denial or explanation from the person under suspicion.
Aleph's already had his say on TV, hasn't he? He's made his position very plain. As well as participation in the fake event at his Pizza Shop.
I would consider it dangerous to contact him.
Hells, people are even afraid to even talk about his subject or look at the images of their "Art. "
seekingtruth2016 ago
No offense, but that's exactly the type of attitude that lends itself to ineffectual research. You don't have to be a professional journalist to know how to ask the right questions to catch someone in a lie. There are YouTubers who have reported on the JA interview he did on Fox and they've talked about the questions that could have been asked. HighImpactFlix is the first one that comes to mind, but you'd could easily do the research on other vids with similar topics regarding what information we should be asking JA if given the opportunity. Whether any of these individuals has tried to contact JA is beyond my scope of knowledge and that's what I am trying to establish to make an informed judgement on this guy's claim that he had such an engaging interaction. It honestly just sounds like a well planned false flag or hoax.
I may be misunderstanding, but your argument that people are afraid to talk about this subject doesn't make sense. That's the whole purpose of these threads. If people were afraid, no one would be investigating, so I'm not sure what point you were trying to make with that response.
samhara ago
Also, the fellow really better watch out, because people like that really will want to kill you after they give you their confession. Don't ever take a confession from someone like that.
samhara ago
He confessed and no one even noticed?
samhara ago
The things/ interviews with Aleph on TV and elsewhere.?
Yes, he gives the tells of a liar. And even psychopath.
So: What else do you want to know?
And what more do you expect.. ? To prove it over again [By the way, that is a tried and true technique; Nothing is going to be good enough to count for proof. So they get you working your ass off for years, and around in circles, called "fruit loops" ]
He gave a confession..
Too funny. Still Dud / Zip.
samhara ago
Average people do not want to hear or talk about it. This is a rarefied group of researchers. Not ordinary people.
samhara ago
I 've been researching for a long time. And you are just wrong.
We are not [alleged] " journalists" with the Mass Media as our megaphone. We have no obligation to "tell both sides."
The other side of the story is told already by the Mainstream. I know what happens to truth; Interviewing the guy isn't going to do anything., unless you are a prosecutor with powers to subpoena and with Aleph in jail - where he can't erase evidence.
Aleph is tipped off to such a degree he's likely even a member here! . You have to subpoena witnesses and all kind of data to prove him right or wrong, and to get him to talk.
Aleph is so certain of his safety that he is said to have confessed on the phone with this individual. It's considered a FEAT or a Trophy - to do that.
It's a job for a team of trained individuals - who actually know the law and have the power to prosecute.
It's not a job for one individual.
They haven't arrested Aleph. Us talking to him is not going to change that. It will just give them a chance to claim harassment.
A phone call by someone who is likely deemed by the Mainstream as a "domestic terrorist" is not going to do anything but play into their script.
Make no doubt about it: The Mass Media is covering for him! And that is powerful
Aleph is under no obligation to answer any questions truthfully, over the telephone with someone he does not know. When he also knows it is a hostile questioning.
These people are hypnotists, they are trained in MKULTRA, The questioner fell right into the SUB [missive] role.
The countdown backwards from 10 is an hypnotic technique.
The dude even apologized to Alephantis. -
The researcher was in over his head.
seekingtruth2016 ago
Honestly, this just sounds like the rant of a shill who is basically saying that the work that's being done is pointless because no one in here is trained to do proper research or interview him effectively. You have no clue what types of professionals take part in this site, so maybe you're the one who's wrong.
Are you really trying to say that you believe JA was using a hypnotic technique over text to get this guy to become submissive? Laughable. MK Ultra techniques aren't going to work that easily. This again just makes you sound like a shill trying to scare people into thinking this was a real situation that could happen to them if they aren't careful. I'm done engaging with you, but appreciate the opportunity to debate the topic. Thanks.
HomeboyChrisBanned ago
I would bet anything that very few people tried to contact him. And out of those, probably only a handful were civil at all. Youre asking for harassment charges by contacting him directly. Look at Sandy Hook. I can think of maybe only one guy who actually went and talked to anyone. He went in person. The other one i know of who contacted people went to jail for it.
seekingtruth2016 ago
You can't just be charged with harassment for contacting someone! If that were the case every person who has ever contacted a stranger would be arrested. Well, if you're a millennial I guess that would be your line of thinking, but I digress. Real journalists aren't just sitting around doing research behind a screen all day. They go out and try to get answers even if in some cases it means risking their lives. There are at least a couple of videos with YouTubers going to CPP to investigate and have they been charged with harassment? Of course not! Once it was apparent that they weren't welcome or asked to leave, they did it and that was the end of the experience. No one went to jail and to my knowledge these people have not been killed off. Some people are just braver than others, but in the case of this PizzaGateGear guy, I think it's a sham created to scare people away from continuing research. Mission failed.