I really think if nothing is done in X amount of time after DJT takes office, we should protest ourselves. THEY CANNOT IGNORE US WE ARE GOING TO TAKE THESE PEDO BASTARDS DOWN!!
IDEA:
This is an excerpt of what the public in Belgium was forced to do after their government basically turned a blind eye like what ours is doing now. I will add the link at the bottom but I really think we should begin to organize something. The article is long but worth the read as Im sure it is still connected to the current pedo crap.. the article mentions US connections. This took place in the 80's and 90's.
"With the families of Dutroux's victims calling for a general strike, men and women all across the country walked away from their jobs in protest as railway workers and bus drivers shut down public transportation, bringing some cities to a virtual standstill. The Telegraph reported that: “In Liege, firemen turned their hoses on the city’s court building” to symbolize the massive clean-up that was in order.
On October 20, 350,000 citizens of the tiny nation took to the streets of Brussels dressed all in white, demanding the reform of a system so corrupt that it would protect the abusers, rapists, torturers, and killers of children. The political fallout from the case would ultimately bring about the resignation of Belgium's State Police Chief, Interior Minister, and Justice Minister – likely sacrificial lambs tossed to the outraged masses to avoid what could easily have exploded into a full-scale insurrection by the people, particularly after police ‘incompetence’ allowed Dutroux to escape and remain at large for a brief time in April of 1998."
Starve the machine, buy locally grown food, or here's a novel thought grow it yourselves.... Barter, keep your purchases of shit you don't need from companies the planet does't need to a minimum, and embrace your community. Keep the internet, it is more important than most realize, but get off Facebook Google etc.
now try convincing anyone in the states to leave their job for a day. I've been advocating this for a while. but, people hide behind excuses like bills, kids, etc. sadly they don't realize how much change can come from walkouts done en mass. i bet if we collectively as a nation, stopped buying or using items for a day, the world would notice. if we said fuck inflation, inflation would go down since nobody would buy anything.
It would not be hard, if the people were dedicated and willing, to set up a strike fund so that those who can easily afford to lose a few days' wages donate to the fund and out of the fund, those people who would really struggle from losing wages by striking are compensated for striking. Something like that would be awesome - citizens organising and helping each other out in order to fuck up the government, and doing it peacefully so the government can't do a single thing about it.
Yeah it would have to be organised very well. Honestly I think it will take something like a general strike to force justice for this issue (and the other state crimes). That's what they had to do in Belgium I believe to get any kind of justice for the Dutroux affair.
The problem with the US is it's so divided, and intentionally so. People don't trust each other, people have their own groups and they distrust people of other races, cultures, religions, political persuasions, etc. That's why government and the media foster those divisions, to make something like everyone getting together to do something about the criminals in power almost impossible.
The only thing that could really unite everyone is if everyone learns the truth, and knows for sure it's the truth. For that you'd need something like video footage of them discussing it, doing it, and hack all the TV networks during prime time and just play the footage. And then witness testimonies. And have a link up to a website where people can find out more. Or something. But I have no idea if thats even possible, probably not. So it's a very difficult thing to do, getting the truth out, and without that, a strike would be hard to mobilise anyway.
Ooooh, unless it was pitched as a strike about government crimes, Pizzagate, and also throw in some other less scary crimes, but one where people who didn't believe in the purpose of the strike could be encouraged to take advantage of the money they'd be paid if they took a few days off work.
We really need someone rich to help us out. What about that guy who started Bitcoin. He is loaded with secret billions worth of bitcoin, right? Maybe if he is found he could be persuaded to use that to pay citizens to not work, and then that would bring down the government, and the terrible economy and the ridiculous and evil monetary system could be collapsed, and bitcoin would rise in its stead. So that would be his incentive. It is a male isn't it? Did they find out who it is yet?
Anyway someone should pitch this idea to him. I genuinely think it will take something as crazy as that to make a difference, because what they 'the elites' are doing is absolutely insane, the kind of things we've been programmed to think of as impossible, wild fantasy fiction. We've been programmed to think so many things are impossible or 'wouldn't work' or 'it's just not like that' - but we've got to stop thinking like that, because it's that kind of thinking that keeps us in a cage.
we definitely are living in a mental cage. we live in a make believe world. we have detectives playing makebelieve catching bad guys (way too many innocent people locked up), we have these laws imposed on our will by people that died 200 years ago on a piece of paper. we legally conduct experiments on the mentally handicapped. people are walking around with the elitist mindframe, forgetting that at the end of the day, they're just a human meat bag; same as everyone else.
i guess talking about pizzagate more and bringing it up in conversations will help until a more developed strategy is devised.
I don't know much about thr bitcoin person, but i'm warry of backing one currency for another. it could still end up creating a new class system. bitcoin is probably much better than the current fiat form we have now. but i think we'll have to go back to straight goods for goods trading or maybe a natural resource based society. everyone helps everyone else. i read about the venus project. they have something like that as a concept.
We don't have the social safety net that Europeans have. Americans are ruled by the corporations and will not be protected if they strike. The MSM will shame protestors or continue to ignore protests.
Participation rate in citizenship is very low. Only half of Americans who can vote do. I think that for the general public to realize media is lying to them, there would have to be hundreds of thousands of people. I like the idea of plastering Pizzagate is real on stuff. But it would have to be a different brand. I wrote it on some bills.
How can we get the 3% in on this? I guess first we would have to look for connections between this ring and known militias. Veterans also need to get in on this too.
i've heard gab is a decent, yet new social media outlet. getting young and old people thru various social media could help. email and phone call blasts to local media groups, members of local and major gov't (they can't all be in on the cover-up), buying out ad space in newspapers and tv, billboards, blimps, skywriting, etc. we can set up a fund for more advertising. since ads are constantly in our face everywhere we look, let's use it as a weapon against "them." these are just thoughts, but i'm more than willing to help in any way i can.
Can't wait to get on Gab. Reddit was my only space until my father-in-law found out and mentioned it casually. Now I have a new 1 point account on Reddit and I can't do anything but read passively. Sucks. I don't know HOW to get media people to pay attention to us. On Twitter, ALL the journalists I have stalked make fun of us for being dumb, they are not even diplomatic or polite or professional in their tweets about this topic. Twitter is a public place to shame people into doing something BUT it's also the most toxic place for important and serious things.
I have never seen that article posted here before. That writer only writes about national security. He would be one of the journalists who write articles about this but never follows up later on.
When I joined here and told her she sent me interesting pizzagate info to follow up. (I used to freelance for this person years ago, never met in person) She posts a little bit about pizzagate but under the hashtag #LugubriousPED she studies the suppression of pizzagate in the media. Pretty cool stuff.
I just recently read a comment that connected the daily beast to chelsea clinton. so i wouldn't put too much faith in them as a source. smoke screen diversion tactics possibly.
grass roots campaiging seems to help. or we fund a full on media blitz about pizzagate, the clinton foundation, the british pedo ring, franklin scandle, etc.
It is by our own fear of stopping cooperation, that actually continues our cooperation. You are correct, sit down, and don't get up until they change things...but fear of OMG MY JOB< MY FAMILY, MY MY MY...stops people from sitting down, hence their cooperation with the very system that is consuming/destroying them.
We don't and we won't. Sadly Americans are never going to sit down and stop cooperating. Most Americans are literally 1 paycheck away from the street with fear so strong that they'll never fight back. I was hoping this xmas people would not shop and stay home...but no, they went further into debt buying and propping up the corporations that assrape us daily. I wish I could say I see that changing, but if it ever were going to change, it would have started this xmas. We are the puppets on the end of their strings dancing to their tunes. Every time we find a way around them that does NOT involve or require us to "sit down" they outlaw it. Reminds me of a movie...IN TIME...each time the "little people" find a way, new laws are made.
If you know the history of the first Peasant Rebellion...they could have won...they literally were within inches of actually winning when they inexplicably quite. As a result of the failed rebellion, the elite made a shit ton of new laws to make things even worse/harder for the peasants. It's like that now...
I do not know how we can get past this except as a collective, however our society is so fractured that I cannot imagine any effective collective rising out of this. Too many actors of the Idiocracy are front and center. I was reading snowflake comments, anarchist comments (srlsy what do basement tards know about anarchy?), it's simply unbelievable and right before our eyes the prophetic movie Idiocracy....is becoming reality. As a collective we have become too stupid, literally...to fight back.
you make decent points as to our collective apathy. there is still hope i think. as soon as people realize laws, money and rules only have as much power as we give them. if my generation doesn't fix this nonsense and inspire a paradigm shift in mentality, then i'm hoping the next generation has a few people that will. at some point, enough citizens will be tired of being looked at as the enemy.
I have a feeling it will no longer be left up to chance. Sooner or later, change will be forced through adversity. When that happens, we must make certain that should any of these vile pedos rise from the ashes, they will be put down, quickly, and without mercy.
A long history of investigating the "making of monsters" ...it is the perpetuity. The victims become offenders...to stop this we must be willing to address this. Either the victims become so fucked up they end up a hot mess (cue Hollywood kids) or they do indeed become perpetrators. To stop more perps from growing, we must be willing to look at the causation factors. Although I'm light on statistics re victims turning into perps, we have to look at this from all levels and stop being afraid of it.
If I have learned anything from this venture into the dark side, it is that it is literally everywhere...from we the people to the highest levels of government. I was stunned to see what was happening on THE TRIBE pages that were exposed here and the chans, the voat and reddit pedo forums...regular people seeking children...this is where it starts. In our families we are afraid to address creepy Uncle/Granpa/Granma/Aunties/Brothers/Sisters within our own homes that are perpetuate the sick...over and over. You think we face opposition from the elite pedos? Yes, we do, but we face an even larger opposition from the regular Joe kiddie fuckers who are buttclenching right now hoping this dies and goes away and they can go back to the shit I saw on The Tribe without any opposition.
So, alongside the NEED to sit down and stop cooperating with "the system" we also need and MUST look within our own damn homes and stop being so afraid of THE FAMILY that we keep silent about the secrets they're hiding. I wish I had your optimism about change. I truly do.
I 100% agree that change comes from within. Change yourself, change the world. The channel for addressing at home pedo stuff needs to change then i imagine. Therapy instead of violence. Segregation in a less violent community. Otherwise, pedos won't seek help, and the other members of the family won't speak up. Fear makes people do irrational things. A complete overhaul of the gov't system needs to happen. Doing the same thing over and over again is not yielding different results. I didn't serve in the military so that pedo oligarchs could rule over me. We have the internet. We have the means to organize. We just need the will of the people when that spark of civil unrest starts to burn.
Yep, we're seeing how the DC "good ol' boys" network actually works. And it's 10x more sinister than just hooking family members up with sweetheart deals and taking bribes from lobbyists.
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Blowitwideopen ago
It helps to know how they are operating behind the scenes. I think the storm is unstoppable now though!
JoJoVoat ago
I really think if nothing is done in X amount of time after DJT takes office, we should protest ourselves. THEY CANNOT IGNORE US WE ARE GOING TO TAKE THESE PEDO BASTARDS DOWN!!
IDEA: This is an excerpt of what the public in Belgium was forced to do after their government basically turned a blind eye like what ours is doing now. I will add the link at the bottom but I really think we should begin to organize something. The article is long but worth the read as Im sure it is still connected to the current pedo crap.. the article mentions US connections. This took place in the 80's and 90's.
"With the families of Dutroux's victims calling for a general strike, men and women all across the country walked away from their jobs in protest as railway workers and bus drivers shut down public transportation, bringing some cities to a virtual standstill. The Telegraph reported that: “In Liege, firemen turned their hoses on the city’s court building” to symbolize the massive clean-up that was in order.
On October 20, 350,000 citizens of the tiny nation took to the streets of Brussels dressed all in white, demanding the reform of a system so corrupt that it would protect the abusers, rapists, torturers, and killers of children. The political fallout from the case would ultimately bring about the resignation of Belgium's State Police Chief, Interior Minister, and Justice Minister – likely sacrificial lambs tossed to the outraged masses to avoid what could easily have exploded into a full-scale insurrection by the people, particularly after police ‘incompetence’ allowed Dutroux to escape and remain at large for a brief time in April of 1998."
http://www.whale.to/b/pedophocracy.html#The_Pedophocracy,_Part_I:__From_Brussels I pulled a few paragraphs here : https://voat.co/v/pizzagatewhatever/1529847
Lets get these bastards.
postfascion ago
Starve the machine, buy locally grown food, or here's a novel thought grow it yourselves.... Barter, keep your purchases of shit you don't need from companies the planet does't need to a minimum, and embrace your community. Keep the internet, it is more important than most realize, but get off Facebook Google etc.
heretolearn ago
now try convincing anyone in the states to leave their job for a day. I've been advocating this for a while. but, people hide behind excuses like bills, kids, etc. sadly they don't realize how much change can come from walkouts done en mass. i bet if we collectively as a nation, stopped buying or using items for a day, the world would notice. if we said fuck inflation, inflation would go down since nobody would buy anything.
SpikyAube ago
It would not be hard, if the people were dedicated and willing, to set up a strike fund so that those who can easily afford to lose a few days' wages donate to the fund and out of the fund, those people who would really struggle from losing wages by striking are compensated for striking. Something like that would be awesome - citizens organising and helping each other out in order to fuck up the government, and doing it peacefully so the government can't do a single thing about it.
Forgetmenot ago
Upvoat!
heretolearn ago
that's a damn good idea. a go fund me page.
i would imagine some sort of crypto currency since paypal and similar sites are notorious in freezing funds.
SpikyAube ago
Yeah it would have to be organised very well. Honestly I think it will take something like a general strike to force justice for this issue (and the other state crimes). That's what they had to do in Belgium I believe to get any kind of justice for the Dutroux affair.
The problem with the US is it's so divided, and intentionally so. People don't trust each other, people have their own groups and they distrust people of other races, cultures, religions, political persuasions, etc. That's why government and the media foster those divisions, to make something like everyone getting together to do something about the criminals in power almost impossible.
The only thing that could really unite everyone is if everyone learns the truth, and knows for sure it's the truth. For that you'd need something like video footage of them discussing it, doing it, and hack all the TV networks during prime time and just play the footage. And then witness testimonies. And have a link up to a website where people can find out more. Or something. But I have no idea if thats even possible, probably not. So it's a very difficult thing to do, getting the truth out, and without that, a strike would be hard to mobilise anyway.
Ooooh, unless it was pitched as a strike about government crimes, Pizzagate, and also throw in some other less scary crimes, but one where people who didn't believe in the purpose of the strike could be encouraged to take advantage of the money they'd be paid if they took a few days off work.
We really need someone rich to help us out. What about that guy who started Bitcoin. He is loaded with secret billions worth of bitcoin, right? Maybe if he is found he could be persuaded to use that to pay citizens to not work, and then that would bring down the government, and the terrible economy and the ridiculous and evil monetary system could be collapsed, and bitcoin would rise in its stead. So that would be his incentive. It is a male isn't it? Did they find out who it is yet?
Anyway someone should pitch this idea to him. I genuinely think it will take something as crazy as that to make a difference, because what they 'the elites' are doing is absolutely insane, the kind of things we've been programmed to think of as impossible, wild fantasy fiction. We've been programmed to think so many things are impossible or 'wouldn't work' or 'it's just not like that' - but we've got to stop thinking like that, because it's that kind of thinking that keeps us in a cage.
heretolearn ago
we definitely are living in a mental cage. we live in a make believe world. we have detectives playing makebelieve catching bad guys (way too many innocent people locked up), we have these laws imposed on our will by people that died 200 years ago on a piece of paper. we legally conduct experiments on the mentally handicapped. people are walking around with the elitist mindframe, forgetting that at the end of the day, they're just a human meat bag; same as everyone else.
i guess talking about pizzagate more and bringing it up in conversations will help until a more developed strategy is devised.
I don't know much about thr bitcoin person, but i'm warry of backing one currency for another. it could still end up creating a new class system. bitcoin is probably much better than the current fiat form we have now. but i think we'll have to go back to straight goods for goods trading or maybe a natural resource based society. everyone helps everyone else. i read about the venus project. they have something like that as a concept.
KansasJakeBG ago
We don't have the social safety net that Europeans have. Americans are ruled by the corporations and will not be protected if they strike. The MSM will shame protestors or continue to ignore protests.
heretolearn ago
300 million people can't be ignored.
KansasJakeBG ago
Participation rate in citizenship is very low. Only half of Americans who can vote do. I think that for the general public to realize media is lying to them, there would have to be hundreds of thousands of people. I like the idea of plastering Pizzagate is real on stuff. But it would have to be a different brand. I wrote it on some bills.
How can we get the 3% in on this? I guess first we would have to look for connections between this ring and known militias. Veterans also need to get in on this too.
I have started making pizzagate art. Here's my first finished piece. http://kansasjake.deviantart.com/
heretolearn ago
i've heard gab is a decent, yet new social media outlet. getting young and old people thru various social media could help. email and phone call blasts to local media groups, members of local and major gov't (they can't all be in on the cover-up), buying out ad space in newspapers and tv, billboards, blimps, skywriting, etc. we can set up a fund for more advertising. since ads are constantly in our face everywhere we look, let's use it as a weapon against "them." these are just thoughts, but i'm more than willing to help in any way i can.
KansasJakeBG ago
Can't wait to get on Gab. Reddit was my only space until my father-in-law found out and mentioned it casually. Now I have a new 1 point account on Reddit and I can't do anything but read passively. Sucks. I don't know HOW to get media people to pay attention to us. On Twitter, ALL the journalists I have stalked make fun of us for being dumb, they are not even diplomatic or polite or professional in their tweets about this topic. Twitter is a public place to shame people into doing something BUT it's also the most toxic place for important and serious things.
I totally stalked this: https://twitter.com/EvaVavoom/status/817039178571644932 and when I looked at her mentions I found this https://twitter.com/EvaVavoom/status/817032168924991489
I have never seen that article posted here before. That writer only writes about national security. He would be one of the journalists who write articles about this but never follows up later on.
When I joined here and told her she sent me interesting pizzagate info to follow up. (I used to freelance for this person years ago, never met in person) She posts a little bit about pizzagate but under the hashtag #LugubriousPED she studies the suppression of pizzagate in the media. Pretty cool stuff.
heretolearn ago
I just recently read a comment that connected the daily beast to chelsea clinton. so i wouldn't put too much faith in them as a source. smoke screen diversion tactics possibly.
grass roots campaiging seems to help. or we fund a full on media blitz about pizzagate, the clinton foundation, the british pedo ring, franklin scandle, etc.
MAGABoomer ago
It is by our own fear of stopping cooperation, that actually continues our cooperation. You are correct, sit down, and don't get up until they change things...but fear of OMG MY JOB< MY FAMILY, MY MY MY...stops people from sitting down, hence their cooperation with the very system that is consuming/destroying them.
heretolearn ago
so how do we get past that mentality as a whole?
MAGABoomer ago
We don't and we won't. Sadly Americans are never going to sit down and stop cooperating. Most Americans are literally 1 paycheck away from the street with fear so strong that they'll never fight back. I was hoping this xmas people would not shop and stay home...but no, they went further into debt buying and propping up the corporations that assrape us daily. I wish I could say I see that changing, but if it ever were going to change, it would have started this xmas. We are the puppets on the end of their strings dancing to their tunes. Every time we find a way around them that does NOT involve or require us to "sit down" they outlaw it. Reminds me of a movie...IN TIME...each time the "little people" find a way, new laws are made.
If you know the history of the first Peasant Rebellion...they could have won...they literally were within inches of actually winning when they inexplicably quite. As a result of the failed rebellion, the elite made a shit ton of new laws to make things even worse/harder for the peasants. It's like that now...
I do not know how we can get past this except as a collective, however our society is so fractured that I cannot imagine any effective collective rising out of this. Too many actors of the Idiocracy are front and center. I was reading snowflake comments, anarchist comments (srlsy what do basement tards know about anarchy?), it's simply unbelievable and right before our eyes the prophetic movie Idiocracy....is becoming reality. As a collective we have become too stupid, literally...to fight back.
heretolearn ago
you make decent points as to our collective apathy. there is still hope i think. as soon as people realize laws, money and rules only have as much power as we give them. if my generation doesn't fix this nonsense and inspire a paradigm shift in mentality, then i'm hoping the next generation has a few people that will. at some point, enough citizens will be tired of being looked at as the enemy.
MAGABoomer ago
I have a feeling it will no longer be left up to chance. Sooner or later, change will be forced through adversity. When that happens, we must make certain that should any of these vile pedos rise from the ashes, they will be put down, quickly, and without mercy.
A long history of investigating the "making of monsters" ...it is the perpetuity. The victims become offenders...to stop this we must be willing to address this. Either the victims become so fucked up they end up a hot mess (cue Hollywood kids) or they do indeed become perpetrators. To stop more perps from growing, we must be willing to look at the causation factors. Although I'm light on statistics re victims turning into perps, we have to look at this from all levels and stop being afraid of it.
If I have learned anything from this venture into the dark side, it is that it is literally everywhere...from we the people to the highest levels of government. I was stunned to see what was happening on THE TRIBE pages that were exposed here and the chans, the voat and reddit pedo forums...regular people seeking children...this is where it starts. In our families we are afraid to address creepy Uncle/Granpa/Granma/Aunties/Brothers/Sisters within our own homes that are perpetuate the sick...over and over. You think we face opposition from the elite pedos? Yes, we do, but we face an even larger opposition from the regular Joe kiddie fuckers who are buttclenching right now hoping this dies and goes away and they can go back to the shit I saw on The Tribe without any opposition.
So, alongside the NEED to sit down and stop cooperating with "the system" we also need and MUST look within our own damn homes and stop being so afraid of THE FAMILY that we keep silent about the secrets they're hiding. I wish I had your optimism about change. I truly do.
heretolearn ago
I 100% agree that change comes from within. Change yourself, change the world. The channel for addressing at home pedo stuff needs to change then i imagine. Therapy instead of violence. Segregation in a less violent community. Otherwise, pedos won't seek help, and the other members of the family won't speak up. Fear makes people do irrational things. A complete overhaul of the gov't system needs to happen. Doing the same thing over and over again is not yielding different results. I didn't serve in the military so that pedo oligarchs could rule over me. We have the internet. We have the means to organize. We just need the will of the people when that spark of civil unrest starts to burn.
pizzaequalspedo ago
Yep, we're seeing how the DC "good ol' boys" network actually works. And it's 10x more sinister than just hooking family members up with sweetheart deals and taking bribes from lobbyists.