So much deletion. Why delete new relevant posts because they arent in the dead section of pizzagate. Silly division and killing of leads. The sub is very slow and boring now because of all the deleted leads
I nearly replied above to @investigate1999's remark that people should only be able to post with a 'good reputation', so it is in this context I reply. (I would have made two responses, but the posting of even comments is so restrictive I fear I may use up my allowance.)
Well, how does this kind of idea work? One has to build a reputation. How do you suggest they do that if someone can't contribute?
I'm new to VOAT, but have been investigating in the area and have some background in strategic thinking and setting up 'random groups of bloggers' into something like an effective organization (within months), so - what are the hoops that one must jump through to attain a 'good reputation'?
I didn't see Rule 4 previously to getting 3 posts banned, and then I ran into issues with being unable to post 'too many' per day? Can't send a message, can't post, can't upvote. It's constraining.
My goal is to focus on group goals and a vision and for targeted effectiveness. I'm still trying to find a way in as none of my posts could be shared due to my ... not being senior enough in some way. So, it's amazing I'm still here -- I am working some other groups, because this effort at prosecuting the guilty (or simply 'getting the word out', which I think is highly over-rated as a priority), is unorganized. Of course it is, it is new and there is enthusiasm. To not lose the momentum, we need a nucleus of Actors, with specifics that the bulk of people can provide their good services to in targeted ways.
I need lawyers - legal minds - who can pro bono their way up to a discussion of what is prosecutable here, and the community needs to decide their vision -- is the goal to get 'everyone', or 'a few kingpens', or run of the mill pimps, etc.?
I hear you. It is very frustrating for me, too, as a user and a mod.
To be honest, I did just you did, where I posted asking for up votes, but that wasn't the right thing to do. Most of my points came from just responding to discussions.
Instead of asking for help to post research, just go through the posts, and ask valid questions. This will help moderators, too. I want to delete a lot of junk out there, but I can't figure out if it is legitimate, or if I missed something, or what. Your questions will help to support our decisions.
Even a simple comment like, "I read through all of this, and I can't find the relevance of it to Pizzagate.", would be a little helpful to me. I can't speak on behalf of all the mods, though.
Just try to find something to say to people.
[edit: I'll up vote your comment, because it is a very good question]
Here's my upvoat to help. Sorry about your frustration. I think most of it stems from Voat bandwidth limitations. It gets better quickly as you accumulate points.
Do post your organizational thoughts in v/askpizzagate. Then 'advertise' with a link and comment in a hot thread in v/pizzagate to get eyeballs.
Last time i checked there was 6 users in v/askpizzagate. You might as well stand outside and yell your post. You are going to have a hotlink post in v/pizzagate? Doesnt that defeat the purpose of 'not posting there'?
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Pizzalurker15 ago
So much deletion. Why delete new relevant posts because they arent in the dead section of pizzagate. Silly division and killing of leads. The sub is very slow and boring now because of all the deleted leads
libertyvs ago
I nearly replied above to @investigate1999's remark that people should only be able to post with a 'good reputation', so it is in this context I reply. (I would have made two responses, but the posting of even comments is so restrictive I fear I may use up my allowance.)
Well, how does this kind of idea work? One has to build a reputation. How do you suggest they do that if someone can't contribute? I'm new to VOAT, but have been investigating in the area and have some background in strategic thinking and setting up 'random groups of bloggers' into something like an effective organization (within months), so - what are the hoops that one must jump through to attain a 'good reputation'? I didn't see Rule 4 previously to getting 3 posts banned, and then I ran into issues with being unable to post 'too many' per day? Can't send a message, can't post, can't upvote. It's constraining.
My goal is to focus on group goals and a vision and for targeted effectiveness. I'm still trying to find a way in as none of my posts could be shared due to my ... not being senior enough in some way. So, it's amazing I'm still here -- I am working some other groups, because this effort at prosecuting the guilty (or simply 'getting the word out', which I think is highly over-rated as a priority), is unorganized. Of course it is, it is new and there is enthusiasm. To not lose the momentum, we need a nucleus of Actors, with specifics that the bulk of people can provide their good services to in targeted ways. I need lawyers - legal minds - who can pro bono their way up to a discussion of what is prosecutable here, and the community needs to decide their vision -- is the goal to get 'everyone', or 'a few kingpens', or run of the mill pimps, etc.?
Pizzalurker15 ago
I agree with you
Investigate1999 ago
I hear you. It is very frustrating for me, too, as a user and a mod.
To be honest, I did just you did, where I posted asking for up votes, but that wasn't the right thing to do. Most of my points came from just responding to discussions.
Instead of asking for help to post research, just go through the posts, and ask valid questions. This will help moderators, too. I want to delete a lot of junk out there, but I can't figure out if it is legitimate, or if I missed something, or what. Your questions will help to support our decisions.
Even a simple comment like, "I read through all of this, and I can't find the relevance of it to Pizzagate.", would be a little helpful to me. I can't speak on behalf of all the mods, though.
Just try to find something to say to people.
[edit: I'll up vote your comment, because it is a very good question]
Vindicator ago
Here's my upvoat to help. Sorry about your frustration. I think most of it stems from Voat bandwidth limitations. It gets better quickly as you accumulate points.
Do post your organizational thoughts in v/askpizzagate. Then 'advertise' with a link and comment in a hot thread in v/pizzagate to get eyeballs.
Pizzalurker15 ago
Last time i checked there was 6 users in v/askpizzagate. You might as well stand outside and yell your post. You are going to have a hotlink post in v/pizzagate? Doesnt that defeat the purpose of 'not posting there'?
Vindicator ago
Not a linked post; a linked comment inside a post.