I found another creepy (VERIFIED) Podesta email while searching for the word, "SMUGGLING." The email contains information on U.S.-Cuba relations and it mentions an upcoming meeting in which "Senior military officials from 16 Caribbean countries, the U.S., UK and others will participate in the three-day conference, which will focus on cooperation to combat the drug trade, human trafficking, and weapons smuggling."
The email's link is here - https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/12267
From - Sarah (Stephens?) of Democracy in the Americas - http://democracyinamericas.org/?page_id=47
To - John Podesta
Date - 2016-01 - 15 20:45
Subject: Stop and Smell (the Cuban) Coffee (or what would Goethe say?)
This is a lengthy email from Sarah (Stephens) of the "charity" called Democracy in the Americas. Stephen's bio is here: http://democracyinamericas.org/?page_id=47.
It seems like a very creepy email because in it, Sarah Stephens seems to be salivating over the prospects of Obama lifting the decades-old U.S. - Cuba embargo, and she not only quotes Goethe, but mentions him in the Subject Line of this verified email. That's significant because of who Goethe was and what he practiced (described below).
Who is Goethe? The only "Goethe" whom I could find online who is frequently quoted is Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, a "widely quoted" German Poet, novelist, playwright, natural philosopher, diplomat, and civil servant who lived from 1749 until 1832 (according to the Wikipedia entry on him, seen here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Wolfgang_von_Goethe)).
MOST NOTABLE in that Wikipedia entry is the section on Goethe's "EROTICISM," which I think is so significant (in the context of this email) that I am quoting the whole section here:
EROTICISM:
Many of Goethe's works, especially Faust, the Roman Elegies, and the Venetian Epigrams, depict erotic passions and acts. For instance, in Faust, the first use of Faust's power after literally signing a contract with the devil is to fall in love with and impregnate a teenage girl. Some of the Venetian Epigrams were held back from publication due to their sexual content. Goethe clearly saw human sexuality as a topic worthy of poetic and artistic depiction, an idea that was uncommon in a time when the private nature of sexuality was rigorously normative.[48]
Goethe wrote of both boys and girls: “I like boys a lot, but the girls are even nicer. If I tire of her as a girl, she’ll play the boy for me as well” (Goethe, 1884).[49]
Goethe also defended pederasty: "Pederasty is as old as humanity itself, and one can therefore say that it is natural, that it resides in nature, even if it proceeds against nature. What culture has won from nature will not be surrendered or given up at any price."[50]
What is "pederasty," you ask? I didn't know, either. I had to look it up. According to Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pederasty))
"Pederasty or paederasty (US /ˈpɛdəræsti/ or UK /ˈpiːdəræsti/) is a (usually erotic) homosexual relationship between an adult male and a pubescent or adolescent male."
So now the email seems even creepier, in light of Sarah Stephens's apparent gushing over the prospects of a lifted embargo, her encouragment to "smell the Cuban coffee," and her pondering of "What would Goethe say?"
WTF? IF ANY VOATERS HAVE TIME TO ARCHIVE AND DIG, PLEASE DO. I'm quoting a portion of the email and pasting
Sarah Stephens's Bio below.
PARTIAL EXCERPTS OF EMAIL BELOW:
From - Sarah (Stephens?) of Democracy in the Americas - http://democracyinamericas.org/?page_id=47
Date - 2016-01-15 20:45
Subject - Stop and Smell (the Cuban) Coffee (or what would Goethe say?)
Defining the challenges of his final year in office, President Obama used his last State of the Union address to make his most forceful appeal (link to speech) to Congress to "lift the embargo" on Cuba since he announced the new U.S. policy toward Cuba in December 2014. . . .
Congress should begin the work of ending the embargo. Tuesday night he hit it harder - making it two years in a row that he urged Congress to take down what presidents dating back to Eisenhower had built up. Everything is happening so fast. Our compassion, concerns, and anxieties are pulled in a dozen different directions. But, isn't this a time when we could stop and admire the beauty of this historical moment? Two years in a row a U.S. president actually said the state of the union would be stronger by ending the embargo against Cuba.
"The mere knowledge that such a work could be created makes me twice the person I was," Goethe said.
Tuesday night we felt that way, too; even more, after dozens of Members of Congress heard what the president said and rose from their seats to applaud.
Stop for a minute and smell that coffee!
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Fingersweating ago
Great find, research, formatting, post, cognitive flow....for someone who doesn't know what pederasty is. Keep trying to impress us, like you were taught(milennials)!
SecondAmendment ago
Thank you! It's my first post here. I think I managed to piece it together precisely because I didn't know what pederasty is until I looked it up at the very end! I probably would have been too grossed out to dig if I knew it at the outset. That's the value of proceeding in a linear fashion, I guess.
I think this email could be a significant find in the Wikileaks emails because, depending on what connections may exist between the 15-year old Center for Democracy in the Americas and all Pizzagate-related issues (e.g., trafficking, orphans, "adoptions," etc.) it may signify that the ending of the embargo means that Cuba's kids will get (or have been) pulled into this.
Isn't it significant that Wikileaks took time to verify this particular email? I do not know nearly enough about this to know why Wikileaks verified some emails, but not all. To me it seems that they verfied the juicy ones.
In addition, the author of this email to Podesta seems to be drooling over the prospects of expanding her "charity" work into Cuba if the embargo gets lifted. The fact that she writes:
"[t]wo years in a row a U.S. president actually said the state of the union would be stronger by ending the embargo against Cuba";
"'The mere knowledge that such a work could be created makes me twice the person I was,' Goethe said"; and
"What would Goethe say?" in the Subject line
gives me some chills and raised my suspicions about this find. I have done fundraising, networking, and all kinds of charity work in my own life, and never in a million years would I mention a pederast in an email to anyone. It defies logic that she's mentioning this creep, Goethe, when gushing with Podesta over the prospects of expanding into an embargo-free Cuba. As in, WTF?
So my purpose in posting was to let you techie researchers and archivers know it's here. I'm sure there is much more below the surface, if people have time to dig. I am pretty useless with all that. If people have time to research Center for Democracy in the Americas and possible trafficking in and around the countries in which the "charity" has been providing "services," perhaps the email author's references to that creepy pederast, Goethe, will make a lot more sense. Thank you.
Voater_from_Austria ago
Look, it's not strange, to quote Goethe, because he is the most important writer in German history. Everybody should know Erlkönig (Erlking), Der Zauberlehrling (The Sorcerer's Apprentice), Faust, Die Leiden des jungen Werther (The Sorrows of Young Werther) at least by name. We read his works in school, and there is no man on earth today, who could write stuff like he (and some other important men of this time... for example Friedrich Schiller or Johann Gottfried Herder) did.
Nobody knows about anything pedo-related to Goethe, because that would be ridiculous. There is no mention on the German wikipedia about anything like that, because - again - that would be ridiculous.
I think there are pedophiles on the English wiki site, who want to push their agenda by stating that Goethe was as sexually depraved as them. The English wiki-Article is crap
About the quotes: The first (about boys and girls) is from his Venetian Epigrams. In these, he pictured the European spirit of this age mostly in a cynical or satirical way.
Second quote about pederasty: Couldn't find anything. The Wikipedia-source quotes "Gedenkausgabe der Werke, Briefe und Gespräche" on page 686. But that would be part of Goethe's "Zahme Xenien", a collection of poems. "The Sorcerer's Apprentice" is part of that. Neither could I find anything related to pederasty, nor would it make sense.
I call bs on the wiki-quote. You only find it on wiki and now on voat.
veritas_vincit ago
Thank you.
It's a bit disturbing to witness how easily roped people on this forum are by a conspiracy, just because it involves a mysterious sounding name like Goethe.
If you were to compile a list of the greatest writers in the history of the world canon, Goethe would almost certainly be among the top 10. There's nothing queer or mysterious about quoting him, jeez.
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