Do you think penance involves being in a cult? For one the first defintion in your image shows you can use it outside of a religious context. Because I don't think Catholics are in a cult.
You don't think Catholics are a cult? Why? Because they're more of a military or...?
cult (kŭlt)
n. A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader.
n. The followers of such a religion or sect.
n. A system or community of religious worship and ritual.
I don't think anyone believes the rank and file Catholic family is in or believes they are in a cult. Just that the Catholic leadership operates with such a high level of secrecy and ritual that it's entirely possible that the leadership is corrupted.
I think a lot of people are desensitized to how extreme the implications of Christianity... and the level of ritual that's involved in Catholicism specifically. They have a figurehead that is recognized as such. They chant chants in dead languages. The romanticize cannibalism. It exists on the importance and power of secrecy (the apostles being the elites and given insight, the common folk being shown "miracles" and told "riddles" to insight faith), and the idea that going against the leaders is seen as prideful and merits being cast out of heaven (God> Satan> Man relationship).
At the heart of the occult are Gnostic heresies. Those who claim to have secret 'knowledge', the enlightened children (illuminati), are really children of the 'light-bringer', or Lucifer. Wolves in sheeps' clothing. I don't feel like putting the effort into debunking your points, but I can compare all (devise-your-own-faith) religions as being some analogue to Satanism. "Do as thou wilt." is really the same kind of thing, in application. But you are entitled to your own opinion, I suppose.
Yes! Having been raised Catholic this statement hits the nail on the head! Most American Catholics are pretty normal; its the ones who go more than once a week or to confession on the reg are the cultists.
Most American Catholics are fraudulent Cafeteria Catholics, who advocate a pick-and-choose-the-doctrines-that-I-want-to-follow lifestyle. They're from the Northeast. They support abortion, etc. They're no different than "Reform Jews". But first, tell me if the Twelve Apostles were following a cult? Look up the definition of 'cult', to help you.
Cafeteria catholics, nice. My brother in law calls me a CEO Catholic: Christmas and Easter Only. Which isn't even true because I havent been to church in at least 13 or 14 years.
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AreWeSure ago
You may want to up your fact checking skills.
throwitawayn0w ago
You don't think Catholics are a cult? Why? Because they're more of a military or...?
AreWeSure ago
If you think Catholicism meets that first definition, you have never really spent any time with Catholics.
pizzaequalspedo ago
I don't think anyone believes the rank and file Catholic family is in or believes they are in a cult. Just that the Catholic leadership operates with such a high level of secrecy and ritual that it's entirely possible that the leadership is corrupted.
throwitawayn0w ago
I think a lot of people are desensitized to how extreme the implications of Christianity... and the level of ritual that's involved in Catholicism specifically. They have a figurehead that is recognized as such. They chant chants in dead languages. The romanticize cannibalism. It exists on the importance and power of secrecy (the apostles being the elites and given insight, the common folk being shown "miracles" and told "riddles" to insight faith), and the idea that going against the leaders is seen as prideful and merits being cast out of heaven (God> Satan> Man relationship).
Very extreme, cult-y, brainwashing.
Cuboctahedron ago
At the heart of the occult are Gnostic heresies. Those who claim to have secret 'knowledge', the enlightened children (illuminati), are really children of the 'light-bringer', or Lucifer. Wolves in sheeps' clothing. I don't feel like putting the effort into debunking your points, but I can compare all (devise-your-own-faith) religions as being some analogue to Satanism. "Do as thou wilt." is really the same kind of thing, in application. But you are entitled to your own opinion, I suppose.
AreWeSure ago
If you want to call Clinton a cultist, because she is Christian, have at it. It's not what most folks, including probably OP.
Lobotomy ago
American Catholics are just scared agnostics. Real, actual, Catholics are cultists.
The_Duke_of_Dabs ago
Yes! Having been raised Catholic this statement hits the nail on the head! Most American Catholics are pretty normal; its the ones who go more than once a week or to confession on the reg are the cultists.
Cuboctahedron ago
Most American Catholics are fraudulent Cafeteria Catholics, who advocate a pick-and-choose-the-doctrines-that-I-want-to-follow lifestyle. They're from the Northeast. They support abortion, etc. They're no different than "Reform Jews". But first, tell me if the Twelve Apostles were following a cult? Look up the definition of 'cult', to help you.
The_Duke_of_Dabs ago
Cafeteria catholics, nice. My brother in law calls me a CEO Catholic: Christmas and Easter Only. Which isn't even true because I havent been to church in at least 13 or 14 years.