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JrSlimss ago

I have a legal background and I wish people could understand that when outsiders ask what part of Pizzagate is actionable, this is the part that is actionable. We have identified victims, we have perpetrators, we have laws broken in how a case was settled, we have a statute of limitations that hasn't run, and we have things we can ask our congresspeople to do specifically.

First on my list? Ask Trey Gowdy, who so sits on the House Judiciary Committee which oversees the US Attorney General's Office, to review how US Attorneys like Acosta and Villafana can offer a non-prosecution agreement (aka plea bargain) to unidentified co-conspirators. If you were a lawyer, you would know this is a violation of Due Process and unenforceable because the defense lawyers on the case essentially can't represent people they don't know and don't have contact with. Then, we need Gowdy to ask who can still be prosecuted (not a stretch because international child trafficking has no statute of limitations under federal law). High on the list for prosecution are Ghislaine Maxwell and Jean Luc Brunel, both of which are identified in civil trials that followed as people that participated in the Epstein international sex trafficking ring. We also need to ask what charges weren't covered in the Epstein plea bargain and also that the US government throw its weight - through at least amicus briefs, but hopefully more - behind Virginia Roberts' civil case to have the Epstein plea bargain overturned for violations of the CVRA, as Stockman identified in the article. That way Epstein can really be prosecuted (to the extent double jeopardy doesn't apply).

On our end, we need to investigate all the people Alfredo Rodriguez identified in Epstein's Little Black Book. We don't have to investigate the whole book of people - though we can - just the ones he identified as people who would have information material to Epstein's operation by circling them. Here is the full list: http://pizzagate.wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein#Additional_Material_Witnesses_or_Participants

For anyone looking for citations for all this info - the Pizzagate.Wiki covers all of Epstein in serious depth: http://pizzagate.wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein

ArthurEdens ago

If you find someone to prosecute on the non-prosecutable list and it leads to people on the list they'd have to open up the file as their proof of defense no?

JrSlimss ago

If I'm understanding the question, the unidentified co-conspirator part of the plea agreement is unenforceable. Thus, the US government could prosecute Ghislaine Maxwell, Jean Luc Brunel, or anyone else not identified in the plea agreement - including all people on the list (except Sarah Kellen). The reason I say to focus on Ghislaine Maxwell and Jean Luc Brunel though, is there is the most evidence to bring charges against them. And all of the Epstein physical evidence collected would be on the table.

ArthurEdens ago

Right unenforceable but if you were to charge someone on the mystery list they'd have to open up the file to prove you can't charge them right? Then you could go after them for crimes made after the agreement.

JrSlimss ago

Right and I think you should be able to go after them crimes regardless of when they were made. It's like when prosecutors give a plea deal to a "small fish" to catch a "bigger fish." In this case, Epstein may be one of the biggest fish, but we can still go after all his associates because they aren't covered in the same deal. And yes, his case file would have to be reexamined, not to litigate him, but because it is evidence in other cases.

cosmicmind ago

How does the public make this happen? What are the steps required ?

JrSlimss ago

Call Trey Gowdy's office, know all the facts about Epstein in addition to the facts provided above, be specific about what you want Gowdy to do, and avoid using the term "Pizzagate" if you want them to take you seriously. I would recommend doing it post January 20th as the Epstein investigation may be relevant to the Congressional investigation into the Clinton Foundation that will start then that Jason Chaffetz has mentioned. Those two are relatively tight with one another, having served on several of the same congressional committees, so there may be a benefit if these two issues can be rolled into one another's investigations.

cosmicmind ago

This may be a lot to ask, but is there any chance someone with solid writing skills might put together a request form letter, paste it here with this thread link attached?

Then the public can easily copy the letter and email it to his office or use it as a base for a phone conversation? (it's unlikely voicemail would get a person through)

If he's flooded with emails, along with copies to various other politicians, maybe it won't be easily overlooked.

It's a place to start this investigation rolling.

Vindicator ago

I will do it. Starting it now.