fifibrindacier ago

Just read "The Assault on truth : Freud's suppression of seduction theory". This is a massive investigation that Jeffrey Masson did, while he was working at Freud archives in London. The oedipus complex theory is totally made to serve pedophiles. Alice Miller, great defendor of children, talked also about that.

sore_ass_losers ago

I was looking into MPD tonight and found this, went to post and found your comment:

(quote) MPD is hardly a new diagnosis. What is new (1996) is the unprecedented rate at which this disorder is now being diagnosed. Studied by nineteenth century psychiatrists, MPD faded into professional obscurity from the 1920s until the early 1980s. This was the period when the theories of Sigmund Freud had a monopolistic hold on clinical thought. Freud believed that incest memories were Oedipal fantasies that the patient confused for reality. The Oedipal fantasy theory diverted clinical attention from trauma-induced dissociative disorders until the early 1980s when this theory crumbled under the weight of empirical evidence that child molestation and incest is more prevalent than previously believed. The collapse of the fantasy theory reawakened interest in MPD and since then the number of diagnoses has risen rapidly. (end quote)

http://digitalcommons.pepperdine.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1513&context=plr (Ample footnotes in original)

Humbolt103 ago

Really interesting !

sore_ass_losers ago

Here's another thread mentioning Freud https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1619028

I just explored @fifibrindacier 's references to Jeffrey Masson and Alice Miller and reported back on that thread.

Humbolt103 ago

Awesome ! Thanks for looking into this I studied a bit about Freud in anthropology and some of his theories do seem to serve pedophilia - I think one avenue of research within pedo gate / pizzagate that we could look into is the evolution of pedophilia as an ideology within academia and politics- there are some documents from PIE (pedophile information exchange) that shed some light on the matter - will share when I have read more on them - mostly these ideas revolve around lowering/removing the age of consent and that children are sexual beings , that some animals Persue pedophillic relationships so it is natural and that the harm from pedophilia is not from the act itself but due to societies belief that pedophilia ought to be harmful - academics are often highly adept at obsfucating language which often hides intentions and agendas - I also think that pedophiles will soon start to reveal themselves publicly as a political social movement so this type of inquiry may become more important in the future (though I know this isn't of immediate concern in the investigation )

Millennial_Falcon ago

John Podesta's former Chief of Staff, Sara Latham, worked for Clement Freud's son Matthew Freud at Freud Communications, a PR firm.

LostandFound ago

Bit more on that if your interested https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1466017

Kodo ago

I did some resaerch on that a while back, there's some interesting info (I was looking for ties between Podesta's and Freud) here: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1458188 Most notably that Sarah Latham (Podesta's chief of staff) was PR director at Freud Communication run by Matthew Freud

Freed0mFighter ago

If you need help translating some material from Portuguese to English send me a PM.

Ksolver ago

One thing I'm surprised no one mentions in the McCann case is the known connection to pedophilia: a british doctor who was present during the holiday social events one night overheard one of the men and Madeleine's father make a joke about having sex with Madeleine (in an obvious, horrible pedo way). The doctor later reported it to the police.

This is discussed in Richard D Hall's documentary.

Orange_Circle ago

Very through post!

party1981 ago

There is way too much circumstantial evidence for the Podestas and Clement (and, likely, the McCann parents) to be innocent.

We are all waiting for that final piece of evidence that puts the Podestas in Portugal at Freud's house on May 4, 2007. After that, I predict that the story will spiral out of control in the media.

fugazihatespizza ago

Just watched a documentary about Lewis Carroll exploring his pedophilc tendancies in which will self was commenting... http://www.historytoday.com/fern-riddell/curiouser-and-curiouser-case-lewis-carroll Also read article regarding his brothers relationship with clement freuds wife, and the nature of the Freud family relationships in general-

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3641876/Dark-secrets-Freuds-Did-wife-47-seduced-boy-16-turn-blind-eye-Clement-s-depravity.html Truly disturbing that this child abduction and the McCann family link to these people....

smokemirrors ago

Yes, please post as much as you can about all this. The Chipping Norton set have been hiding behind their nouveau riches and media power for far too long. Out them ALL. Ive posted plenty about the Matthew Freud, Clarence Mitchell, Clement Freud, Elizabeth Murdoch, Rupert Murdoch, Madeline McCann relationships. They're all connected. Read too about the very suspicious death of Christopher Shale. One should also look more closely at the famous newspaper phone hacking scandals that occurred several years ago and see what theyre REALLY about. And just how many dead bodies have turned up because of it.

Humbolt103 ago

Will look for your posts thanks for letting me know and introducing me to The Chipping Norton and Christopher Shale set i am familiar with the phone hacking scandal but will now look into it further in relation to all this pizzagate stuff

smokemirrors ago

Welcome. I replied to your other post too. Phone hacking scandal: needs to a thread by itself. Journos hacked into a missing girls phone and deleted messages. Strange connection to drug dealers working at tabloids and "not random" pedos who carried out a series of attacks in the early 2000s (Milly Dowler, Sarah Payne, the Soham Girls, etc. Popular journalists died of "heart attacks" (what a surprise) for knowing too much ...all protected by Rebecca Brooks, Murdoch's, the most savage attorneys in the UK - Carter Ruck - and assholes like Clarence Mitchell (McCann spokesperson...also used to pr for Mohammad Al Fayed.) Mohammed Al Fayed's son dodi died with Princess Diana as everyone knows. Princess Diana's brother is now married to Matthew Freud's first wife. Yes, its all unbelievable. Dig dig dig and POST!

carmencita ago

I remember reading on here that Gerry McCann had some interesting items on his computer. There has not been any news about what they found. Also supposedly the mother said, when she realized she was gone "They have taken her". Yes it is possible they gave someone access to Maddy but did not think they would take off with her. This does not let them off the hook, for that means they were prostituting their own little girl.

anonentity ago

Gerry McCann seems to have had a sanitized Cat number. (sex offender number) http://goodqualitywristbands.blogspot.com/2012/01/did-jim-gamble-sanitize-gerry-mccanns.html

carmencita ago

I want to see his sorry as* hang from a noose. She needs her sorry as* thrown in jail. Don't tell me no one in the family knew about the charges. I am just worried about Maddy's brother and sister.

2impendingdoom ago

Hi, there are about a zillion threads already about m. mccann. This subject has been commented on extensively. Start with the search to your right. ----> use variations of spelling because not everyone here (me included) always use correct spelling. There is also a pizzagate.wiki so more stuff might be there. Please add anything new you find. PS do you have any sources for the Will Self/Jill Freud comment? That may be new here.

Humbolt103 ago

Okay will have a look, thanks and yes it was will self's brother who had the affair - it's mentioned in this article and others https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/news/uk/680405/How-Much-Did-Lady-Freud-Know/amp?client=safari. - clement and his wife were in an open marriage - i also read in another article that Clement Freud boasted of being one of the first people to book Rolf Harris , who is now a convicted pedophile

Humbolt103 ago

Okay thanks shared it on a thread about Clement Freud still getting used to navigating VOAT

smokemirrors ago

Welcome - great to have you on board. Please do as much digging as you can and post/share on here anything you find. I can't wait for the cunty Freuds and their dirty associates to be exposed. Why Sig Freud is heralded as such a genius was always a mystery. Disgusting coke addled pervert freak, with insane, damaging theories and methodologies that do worse than good. Anyhow I digress. Yes, the as the other poster said, lots of good stuff on the Freud/McCann links already.

KanyeMKULTRA ago

Very very interesting. It's funny you mention Murdock, he was mentioned by an investigator named Tory Smith as one of the child rape perpetrators shortly before dying. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUerL_fo3rM I'll try to do some research into the others. It's not unheard of for elite to trade their children in for power, wealth, and clout. Allegedly musicians do it often for fame/wealth, sacrifices. I've heard rumors Kris Jenner has done it with her daughters, loaning them out for a night to elite as well as other celebs. Possibly why they're so famous, I know it's definitely not their talent. Amanda Bynes alleged it, and was labeled bi polar, batshit crazy after accusing her father of pedophilia/pimping.

Humbolt103 ago

Ah thanks for the link will check it out! and yeah it's pretty sick what people will do for fame and fortune...i wouldn't put it past Kris Jenner also heard that that's what Paris Hilton did to get famous ! it's a sad sad world if all this is true but thanks would be great to know more about Clement and Matthew - they are also related to Edward Bernays - Sigmund Freud's nephew and father of public relations - apparently Matthew Freud has followed in Bernays' footsteps

sore_ass_losers ago

FWIW, I've heard on Hollywood gossip sites that before Kim Kardashian and Paris Hilton became famous in pornos they were 'studio whores', they would sleep with rich Hollywood types for thousands of dollars. Also that they would go to the rich countries in the Middle East for the same purpose.

For sure it was in the press a few years ago that some young oil sheik offered a small fortune to fly in KK and 'party' with her all night. I think she was already married but yet amenable to this, not sure what happened in the end.

Nothing to do with child abuse but goes to the decadence of our society.

Stellarjay ago

I really despise celebrities because they actually believe their false glory. Nicky Hilton married a Rothschild

smokemirrors ago

big thread on BERNAYS last night.