Late to the discussion, but I hope my post is read and considered.
TL:DR
avoid a definition that supports media narrative of pizzagate. acknowledge podesta emails as starting point, but build up a list of people, places, and organizations that are linked by objective evidence. allow definition room to evolve. define purpose of investigation.
Let us begin by examining how Mass media has defined Pizzagate. any definition that fits too closely to the mass media narrative will obviously hurt us. I looked at the articles on Pizzagate from the top ten newspapers in the world, and created the following composite definition: (see reply comment for full sources)
Hillary Clinton is running a child sex ring inside a DC pizzeria, using pizza places to traffic people, and abusing children in the basement.
John Podesta and other high ranking democratic leaders are also involved.
Code words and satanic symbols point to this.
The above definition gives us a clue of some traps we can avoid to fall into. Here are some attack angles that media is currently trying to use to discredit and ridicule Pizzagate:
Pizzagate is targeting Hillary clinton / democratic party because they are all trump supporters.
Pizzagate is obviously fake because they believe that Hillary is a devil worshiper abusing kids in a pizzeria basement.
So my point is that any definition that focuses exclusively on clinton, podesta, and democratic leaders is defenseless against legitimacy attacks. (just Trump supporters) and focusing on the satanic aspect or the pizzeria front aspect is also problematic, although clearly one piece of the picture.
I like the pedocracy post higher up, I also like the idea of degrees of separation from the primary evidence (podesta emails). I also want to raise the issue of PURPOSE. Why we are doing this?
with the above in mind, here is one suggestion:
"An open investigation into VIPs and organizations possibly involved in child abuse networks, originating from the leaked emails of John Podesta. PIZZAGATE aims to raise awareness of valid concerns, possibly leading to legal prosecution."
This could be a working definition that allows for further development of the definition of scope. it specifies a starting point, but not an end point. the criteria could be Provable degrees of separation from key suspects, organizations
supporting this criteria would be:
A list of people and organizations that are linked to Pizzagate through objective evidence and logical correlation.
A list of people and orgs that have been discussed but without a provable, objective link.
people and organizations like John Podesta, James Alefantis, Comet Ping Pong, Clinton foundation are certainly close to podesta
going further leads to people like Epstein / Lolita express, Laura Silsby, David Brock, Eric Braverman, Transformer art gallery, Heavy Breathing, Majestic Ape, social media profiles linked to James A.
Believers imagined a pedophilia ring supposedly being run out of the pizza shop that somehow involved Hillary Clinton and her campaign chairman John Podesta, among other Democrats.
It was an anti-Clinton narrative -- just one of many -- spread by online commenters who described themselves as Donald Trump supporters. "Pizzagate" continued to evolve after election day.
http://money.cnn.com/2016/12/05/media/fake-news-real-violence-pizzagate/
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justanotherpizza ago
Late to the discussion, but I hope my post is read and considered.
TL:DR avoid a definition that supports media narrative of pizzagate. acknowledge podesta emails as starting point, but build up a list of people, places, and organizations that are linked by objective evidence. allow definition room to evolve. define purpose of investigation.
Let us begin by examining how Mass media has defined Pizzagate. any definition that fits too closely to the mass media narrative will obviously hurt us. I looked at the articles on Pizzagate from the top ten newspapers in the world, and created the following composite definition: (see reply comment for full sources)
The above definition gives us a clue of some traps we can avoid to fall into. Here are some attack angles that media is currently trying to use to discredit and ridicule Pizzagate:
So my point is that any definition that focuses exclusively on clinton, podesta, and democratic leaders is defenseless against legitimacy attacks. (just Trump supporters) and focusing on the satanic aspect or the pizzeria front aspect is also problematic, although clearly one piece of the picture.
I like the pedocracy post higher up, I also like the idea of degrees of separation from the primary evidence (podesta emails). I also want to raise the issue of PURPOSE. Why we are doing this?
with the above in mind, here is one suggestion:
"An open investigation into VIPs and organizations possibly involved in child abuse networks, originating from the leaked emails of John Podesta. PIZZAGATE aims to raise awareness of valid concerns, possibly leading to legal prosecution."
This could be a working definition that allows for further development of the definition of scope. it specifies a starting point, but not an end point. the criteria could be Provable degrees of separation from key suspects, organizations
supporting this criteria would be:
people and organizations like John Podesta, James Alefantis, Comet Ping Pong, Clinton foundation are certainly close to podesta
going further leads to people like Epstein / Lolita express, Laura Silsby, David Brock, Eric Braverman, Transformer art gallery, Heavy Breathing, Majestic Ape, social media profiles linked to James A.
justanotherpizza ago
sources for composite mass media definition of PIZZAGATE: