Amanda Kleinman is not Majestic Ape. She is the keyboardist of Heavy Breathing.
This is not to say she doesn't CLAIM to be Majestic Ape, or that she doesn't sometimes pose as the character.
I keep seeing posts and memes alleging this, like this one I saw earlier on Facebook:
http://imgur.com/a/arVh3
So I feel like we need some clarity.
In order to eliminate some of the false information, I wanted to make a post about Majestic Ape and Amanda Kleinman, as I am relatively certain they are not one in the same. In fact, I think Majestic Ape is Alefantis. At least sometimes. Possibly, it could be multiple people, but for the most part, it is not often Kleinman, although the band will have you believe it is. She calls it her 'performance character' although considering they have been onstage at the same time and the face doesn't seem to compare to Kleinman's more often than not.
In videos, despite the distorted voice, it is a voice belonging to a MALE (feminine qualities, sure, but a man portraying himself as a woman isn't going to hit his manliest notes). It's a man in drag.
Based on this image I posted above, comparing the facial features, it looks to be Alefantis, imo, and from what I can tell, for the most part, Majestic Ape has only made 'her' appearances at DC-area shows (correct me if I'm wrong). I know this has been ever-so-slightly addressed on this forum in earlier threads but in case you missed it, you can compare the two photos:
http://imgur.com/a/YdYDW
Amanda Kleinman IS a real person. A real woman, a teacher (she even has a 'safe' profile on facebook for her teacher personality under the name Amanda K-Teacher), who is indeed in the band Heavy Breathing. I've seen on voat people repeatedly say she is the SINGER. Wrong. You will find her on keyboard in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRQI8huoP0Q
Here in this interview you'll see it points out that Kleinman is the keyboardist: https://hometownsoundsdc.com/2013/12/12/interview-with-heavy-breathing/
They are a 3-piece act. The image below is of the band The Apes, an older band that all three members of Heavy Breathing were in. The man holding the leaf is Erick. The man on the far left is Jeff, and obviously that's Amanda on the far right. The interview I posted above has a more recent representation of them to confirm they are a trio and Majestic Ape is not a member of the act:
http://imgur.com/U4bQJwA
Anything else you think should be clarified about Amanda, please let me know and I may add it. Also let me know if I've got anything wrong here and I will make corrections.
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VieBleu ago
Look at the video The Neutered Noel (if you can stomach it) it's here https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1457070. Also you can look up threads here about it. Close ups of MA in at least this video clearly show a differnt set of lips under the mask than when Alefantis appears in a red mask (which he most certainly does in at least some photos) His wide smirk is unmistakable, A Kleinman's appearance for example in the Noel video close up shows lips that are clearly different- more feminie, a clear dip in the middle of the top lip, even a touch of lip gloss.
A Kleinman was on the road and was in some of these videos - she provides plausable denial as a "beard" to Alefantis who can deny ever donning the mask. My theory is that he is the impresario behind the video productions and some of the music, AK is just a performer and beard. She may have been raised in mind control situations, and she at times refers to herself as "Puppet".
christa ago
Could it be possible then that "Majestic Ape" is multiple people or at least people have posed as Majestic Ape in instances/locations where Alefantis couldn't reprise the role? They might even be mouthing words that Alefantis has earlier recorded.
Interesting that my post is getting downvotes. I'm modding here and I know this doesn't violate side rules, and if it's poor information in places, I'd asked people to address that so I could make corrections. In regards to pizzagate, unjustifiable downvotes are sometimes a good thing, but Idk if I'm necessarily onto anything huge -- seems to be rustling some jimmies though.
VieBleu ago
You could be getting downvotes because of your headline - it is pretty established that Kleinman is in the band at least at times and in some of the videos, so that headline is pretty extreme. I would delete, change your headline and repost. Up to you. I don't think it's unreasonable to question whether Kleinman herself isn't multiple personalities, handled by Alefantis, who could himself be split. Heavy Breathing is heavy stuff we are dealing with.
christa ago
I never said Kleinman wasn't in the band? I said Majestic Ape isn't.
VieBleu ago
hmm yes, I misread that. weird I wonder if it confuses others too. However, Majestic Ape is in all (some of?) the Heavy Breathing videos, have you looked through them? You'll notice in the Noel video other band members wear the red mask, so it's not exclusive to AK.
christa ago
Did you go to the links I provided? There is literally no mention of Majestic Ape being a member of the band, particularly on the page with the band interview. MA is not in most of their images either, and I have seen live footage where 'she' made no appearance whatsoever.
To me, Majestic Ape is more like their mascot than anything. She is definitely not a member of the band and in video footage I've studied, it appears to be a man in drag, without a doubt, and imo it's James.
VieBleu ago
Here's one where it's clearly not alefantis mouth, I would say it is AK, but she is just a "model" I guess not playing instrument -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTnxBwfZH0M
Here's a video that does a good comparison of Alefantis mouth with SOME photos of MA - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZkojrcD_0I
I've seen a few live performance videos of the band with Kleinman definitely performing in no mask, waving her hair around, like what you posted.
Alefantis I think considered himself the real Majestic Ape (huge ego, I hate to paint this picture but I'd bet he looks in the mirror all the time and calls himself that - yuk), his face was posted into some of the weird images in the videos, and it may be him in the video I No Luv
christa ago
I wouldn't say regarding the first video that it's clearly not Alefantis' mouth. To be honest it does look a little like his closed mouth in this image: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cxva3AIVIAEJR5a.jpg I'm willing to consider it isn't him though.
That said, she's not talking or anything in that footage, and maybe the reason for that is they had someone else play the role for some of these promo videos. Supposing they have different people wear the mask, I can say with almost 100% confidence that the Majestic Ape in the widespread video who was cracking weird jokes on Sasha Lord's birthday is none other than James himself.
While it's certainly possible that it's not James all the time, and even possible I'm wrong about it being James in the aforementioned video, the fact remains: Amanda Kleinman is NOT Majestic Ape, and that really needs to be emphasized here and in other areas, because from the looks, some people still think otherwise.
VieBleu ago
Call Alefantis "Majestic Ape" Call Amanda Kleinman "Puppet"
works for me.