Edit: To the people downvoting: not sure how many of you are shills, and how many are just uninformed, but please get informed about this guy's actual complaints before you downvote me for fighting disinformation. An example of how quickly disinformation spreads is how people in this thread are saying this guy accused Alefantis of rape and murder. Not even close to true! He claimed that such a venue being open so late would bring rape and murder to the area (i.e. it would be a crime magnet). You have to understand that fake evidence like this is the NUMBER ONE tool the enemy is using to disrupt our investigation. It wastes our time and ends up discrediting us for confirmation bias.
This post is old news (was discovered back in the /r/pizzagate days) and completely unrelated to Pizzagate. This was an overactive neighborhood association member trying to keep outside traffic out of his neighborhood.
Here's an article that covers the dispute in a bit more detail:
Rule #8 of Truth Suppression: "Dismiss charges as 'old news'."
I don't see how this isn't connected to Pizzagate. It proves that someone was onto Alefantis almost a decade ago... perhaps for entirely different reasons.
Using fake evidence to support Pizzagate is a poison pill. I'm not dismissing Pizzagate. Take a look at the current summary sticky and see who wrote it.
Using fake evidence to support Pizzagate is a poison pill.
FAKE NEWS!!
Yeah but you'll have to explain why it's poison, I'm not taking your word for it just because you wrote a summary.
That's called discussion and it's what we're here to do. It's pretty easy for you to dismiss the discussion in this thread because YOU said it's not relevant... but you're not showing WHY it's not relevant.
Or should I use buzzwords like "caution" "concern" trolling?
I think you are trying to hold this investigation to a standard that is for the courts to do. This is not an official investigation with presumed innocence and search warrants and grand juries. This is a citizen investigation in the court of public opinion. The public decides if something is relevant. Furthermore, it is relevant because it depicts a pattern of accusations over a period of time.... and where there is smoke there is fire. Stop trying to presume innocence and give the benefit of the doubt, believe me the pedofile political elite don't play the game that way. As Andrew breitbart said to podesta he is playing to win. The rule applies only if both sides follow them. And for the record no one has been charged so no one is presumed innocent . Do you understand how it works? step one: suspect is arrested, step two: his Miranda raights are read. No one is charged so no one is presumed innocent. That is the way the game is played but in the court of public opinion people have a right to form their own opinion about the facts and it is a FACT that frank winstead said comet ping was associated with rapes and murder.
I agree but it has to be investigated in order to be determined fake or not. Test everything but saying it's irrelevant is akin to labeling it fake news. It's important not to disregard facts, it's too early without more evidence to make judgements about winstead motivations. Don't you think?
I agree but it has to be investigated in order to be determined fake or not.
The impossible game.
Present unlimited false leads that people like @Forgetmenot will demand need to be investigated in order to bury the real lead needles in the proverbial haystack.
You need to watch yourself. This attitude of yours got you on the wrong side of something with me before. If I see this kind of bullshit argument again, I'll be labeling you as some kind of CTR/shill/COINTEL.
Stop wasting everyone's fucking time with UNPROVEN new (or old) links. Period.
What do you mean by watch myself? Is that a threat? To do what exactly?
Why will you label me CTR for commenting to a post. This is NOT MY POST. I simply upvoated and commented. @Ronnilynn31 is the user who made the post.
Our last interaction I thought you were CTR now I wonder if you are a troll that likes to create conflict with your threats intimidation and bad words. The other prabability is that pizzagate has hit a nerve and we are in intimidation stage in order to suppress the truth.
This is very unpleasant of you and I am now going to figure out if voat has a block feature. If not unless I somehow violate the rules of voat please don't interact with me again. No offense intended. Too much drama already.
What do you mean by watch myself? Is that a threat? To do what exactly?
I will respond to your stupid posts by actually calling you one of those things and outright dismissing whatever you've said with the conclusion I've come to. How does that sound to you?
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QuestionEverything ago
Dont direct traffic at these assholes. Archive ftw.
Millennial_Falcon ago
Edit: To the people downvoting: not sure how many of you are shills, and how many are just uninformed, but please get informed about this guy's actual complaints before you downvote me for fighting disinformation. An example of how quickly disinformation spreads is how people in this thread are saying this guy accused Alefantis of rape and murder. Not even close to true! He claimed that such a venue being open so late would bring rape and murder to the area (i.e. it would be a crime magnet). You have to understand that fake evidence like this is the NUMBER ONE tool the enemy is using to disrupt our investigation. It wastes our time and ends up discrediting us for confirmation bias.
This post is old news (was discovered back in the /r/pizzagate days) and completely unrelated to Pizzagate. This was an overactive neighborhood association member trying to keep outside traffic out of his neighborhood.
Here's an article that covers the dispute in a bit more detail:
http://web.archive.org/web/20120212231251/http://dcist.com/2008/06/18/small_victory_for_comet_ping_pong_a.php
Not going to delete, but flairing for relevance.
eMalum ago
Rule #8 of Truth Suppression: "Dismiss charges as 'old news'."
I don't see how this isn't connected to Pizzagate. It proves that someone was onto Alefantis almost a decade ago... perhaps for entirely different reasons.
Millennial_Falcon ago
Using fake evidence to support Pizzagate is a poison pill. I'm not dismissing Pizzagate. Take a look at the current summary sticky and see who wrote it.
eMalum ago
FAKE NEWS!!
Yeah but you'll have to explain why it's poison, I'm not taking your word for it just because you wrote a summary. That's called discussion and it's what we're here to do. It's pretty easy for you to dismiss the discussion in this thread because YOU said it's not relevant... but you're not showing WHY it's not relevant.
Or should I use buzzwords like "caution" "concern" trolling?
Millennial_Falcon ago
Yeah, I'm discussing how this is most likely completely irrelevant to Pizzagate.
Edit: Added sources that provide more detail.
Forgetmenot ago
I think you are trying to hold this investigation to a standard that is for the courts to do. This is not an official investigation with presumed innocence and search warrants and grand juries. This is a citizen investigation in the court of public opinion. The public decides if something is relevant. Furthermore, it is relevant because it depicts a pattern of accusations over a period of time.... and where there is smoke there is fire. Stop trying to presume innocence and give the benefit of the doubt, believe me the pedofile political elite don't play the game that way. As Andrew breitbart said to podesta he is playing to win. The rule applies only if both sides follow them. And for the record no one has been charged so no one is presumed innocent . Do you understand how it works? step one: suspect is arrested, step two: his Miranda raights are read. No one is charged so no one is presumed innocent. That is the way the game is played but in the court of public opinion people have a right to form their own opinion about the facts and it is a FACT that frank winstead said comet ping was associated with rapes and murder.
Millennial_Falcon ago
If we push fake evidence, the court of public opinion will decide WE are full of shit. Need I say more?
Forgetmenot ago
I agree but it has to be investigated in order to be determined fake or not. Test everything but saying it's irrelevant is akin to labeling it fake news. It's important not to disregard facts, it's too early without more evidence to make judgements about winstead motivations. Don't you think?
Crensch ago
The impossible game.
Present unlimited false leads that people like @Forgetmenot will demand need to be investigated in order to bury the real lead needles in the proverbial haystack.
You need to watch yourself. This attitude of yours got you on the wrong side of something with me before. If I see this kind of bullshit argument again, I'll be labeling you as some kind of CTR/shill/COINTEL.
Stop wasting everyone's fucking time with UNPROVEN new (or old) links. Period.
@Millennial_Falcon
Forgetmenot ago
Crensch ago
I will respond to your stupid posts by actually calling you one of those things and outright dismissing whatever you've said with the conclusion I've come to. How does that sound to you?