Guys, I understand the frustration of seemingly 'non-sequiturs' and the call for MODS on here to keep better control. In a way, though, isnt EVERYTHING linked to Pizzagate? Whether its false flags here or around the world, celebrities, Hollywood, arms dealing, drugs in South America, literally, ALL ROADS lead back to Pizzagate, that is, absolute corruption and exploitation at the heart of the political system.
Someone posted a video about Joan Rivers being bumped off a few posts down and commentators have screamed 'irrelevancy'... actually, it IS pretty relevant to Pizzagate. A corrupt and covert operation as the first family in the White House, pushing the Gay and Transgender issues? Where else have we come across a DC based corrupt and covert operation? Oh yes. PIZZAGATE.
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massconception ago
Yes, I find the new strict rules are counterproductive as soon as I read them. They leave absolutely zero amount of room for what would be considered "brain storming", or "throwing ideas out there", which are exactly what you need when things start to run a little "cold" an in investigation. It was very rude for the mod to show up making that demand while also seeming impartial. Whoever asked for that demand or for this mod to come around is counterproductive to pizzagate, no matter how much they congratulate his or her self on being a staunch supporter.
2impendingdoom ago
its not just the demand for relevancy that distracts from the conversation (in some cases the connection is obvious, yet the questioner remains unreasonable) its the down voating that goes with it. This is pure contention and distracts from the investigations.
massconception ago
I agree. I held up this contention a few days before the recent mass downvoating. People in this sub who don't ra-ra PG like it's a religion replete with doctrinal beliefs never gets an upvote and often gets a downvote.
I hope my point has been made a bit more clear now that there's a nice, contentious-yet-orthodox background to show stark contrast.
2impendingdoom ago
I think we are here, and all in this together, is because we want to find the extent of the corruption and get justice served for the victims. Anyone in this forum who acts contrary to that is obstructing our efforts, and the freedom of speech that we rely on for our work. The rules work as guidelines but pizzagate is a nomenclature for global schemes involving any kind of systemic corruption undertaken by abuse of authority. It is most egregious where it involves abuse of children but that is probably just one aspect of a larger network of criminality. Downvoating or calling for mods because the thread is not about a pizzashop is contrary to the pursuit of pizzagate investigations. All of us here are intelligent enough to decide for ourselves what is of interest and how it relates, and what not to pursuit. I suggest that for the many repeating threads we can simply and politely direct the poster to use the search and move on without voating one way or another, and to keep the titles as descriptive as possible.
massconception ago
That sounds largely parallel to my own line of thinking. And I like that you stress how everything we find is not always going to come anywhere close to a pizza restaurant.
Well, that kind of pokes a big hole in pizzagate now that I think about it. Pizzagate's "planetoid" if you will is James Alefantis and the Comet Ping Pong establishment. Which, under entirely other circumstances seems like a crazy sort of place that I would enjoy eating pizza at if I ever dared to even set foot in DC, except for the ping pong. I fucking hate ping pong, because I find it boring and ludicrous, and far too constrained. I don't dislike net games overall: I'm good at volleyball and I love badminton. If their sport of choice were volleyball or badminton I would have to excuse myself from the investigation because I'd be laughing too much. CPP seems like a synthesis of art-pop and "underground aesthetics" that I enjoy, having frequented a lot of the underground music and art scenes in my own locale.
One thing I do want to stress, though, is that those music and art scenes I've visited do contain sketchy persons who make one too many sick pedo jokes for me to be comfortable with them. Sadly this kind of sense of "humour" is bird of feather with the alternative lifestyle scene, meaning many of my gay/trans/tranny friends rub elbows with people I suspect of being sick perverts. Suffice it to say I've been out of that scene for quite some time as it became I was offending a lot of my closer friends with outbursts against "faggots". Nothing hurts worse than being in a car full of bisexuals going to a club and blurting out something about "those faggots" and having your close friends all go "yeah. fucking faggots" and knowing that you just made them all feel like human shit.
What I'm saying is, the focus has become larger than Alefantis' weird little Satanic Daycare Pizzeria, and therefore pizzagate itself is no longer strictly pizzagate at this point in time, as you point out so well. Which means some of the more important newer discoveries, dealing with things such as "why the hell are so many island-based orphanages and human trafficking headquarters even in existence let alone seemingly all complicit", or "how does this relate to Norway and Hillary Clinton", are off-topic and yet precisely on-topic.
It's a conundrum. Maybe pizzagate needs to be cut from the directory tree (I presume there is one) and turned into a subdirectory of a larger topic. It would get the investigators here turned onto the larger pursuit of figuring out the global pedophilia cult.
2impendingdoom ago
For me its curling. How is that a real sport?? And your question, Which means some of the more important newer discoveries, dealing with things such as "why the hell are so many island-based orphanages and human trafficking headquarters even in existence let alone seemingly all complicit" its seems the more of them (orphanages) there are, the higher the number of missing children, wouldn't anyone expect those statistics to GO DOWN? I don't think there should be any splinter subs, we should make more effort adding to the wiki. I am not and I should be.