Inside Besta Pizza, there are messages from children and a troubling poster of a man in a mask holding pasta over a boy (pizzagate)

submitted ago by Psalm100

I came across a Google Photo Sphere from inside Besta Pizza in 2010. I'm not sure how to link to it but have posted some screen shots. The pizzeria appears to be a small place with no seating. Of interest is that on one wall, there are many drawings and letters from children (including one child writing about liking "cheese on pizza"), and there is also a troubling "artistic" type poster of a man in a mask holding pasta over a child, and another of an old man eating a large bowl of plain pasta.

So first, pictures of the wall with children's messages and drawing. Besides one child writing about liking "cheese on pizza," another writes, "Willie the walrus rode the fat juicy chicken." And it may very well be coincidence but one child writes about "the elefhant."

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A poster of a man holding pasta over a child (both seemed masked), and the poster caption is "The Art of Pasta":

https://i.sli.mg/BsFDD3.png

And a poster of an old man eating large bowl of plain pasta:

https://i.sli.mg/grKk7d.png

Three posters that can't be made out ( but two seem from the same "series"):

https://i.sli.mg/8LPV4r.png

Pictures and perhaps a calendar having to do with Egypt (The Pyramids and Sphinx):

https://i.sli.mg/MYU7VG.png

Second, in an unrelated discovery, I encountered the "American Party" (a third political party) on Twitter, and oddly enough its logo contains the pedophile triangle symbol as part of the "A."

This is from the party's "About" page, which says both U.S. political parties don't represent the country. It seems to be something like the Tea Party in its official views, but in its tweets seems anti-Republican and anti-Trump and somewhat pro-Democratic. It has about 25,000 Twitter followers, but no Wikipedia entry.

https://i.sli.mg/PhvgPU.png

https://americanparty.mobi/about/

https://twitter.com/AmerParty

Of course it's entirely possible that the symbol is there coincidentally, but at this point it can't be ruled out that inclusion of the symbol wasn't intentional.

Gbuggers ago

Funny thing most your links are not loading

thestormking ago

The artwork is really grasping at straws. The logo however is worth noting.

dafacts ago

American Party has deleted their Facebook page already... confirmation of guilt?

Psalm100 ago

Are you sure that you went to the right page? Someone else posted the link to it and I believe it's still there:

https://m.facebook.com/amerparty

Yuke ago

Weird. I've just searched Besta and ran a search of their phone number and it has returned a Hiz Inc. I've not seen this before. There's an email address to contact that contains "Hiz vitamins" and it says it is based at 5029 Connecticut Ave. Names mentioned include; Richard Flora, Hamade Abdul, Samir Sbitan, http://archive.is/lhE7A A search of opencorporates brings one result for DC, H.I.Z INC. and a name of Diane Uchiminga. I cannot find anything on this person at all. It's been inactive since 2007. Searches of similar are bringing up African names and what appears to be Korean names. I guess I'm off on a hunt!

Psalm100 ago

That's interesting. On the wall of Besta are posters and perhaps a calendar from Egypt, suggesting someone there has some connection to that country.

parcelsus ago

Based on the text on the portraits, "The Art of Pasta" I as able to find the portrait of the man eating pasta here. That led me to this page, where framed copies of it are sold, and this article crediting the image to the Pasta Agnesi Museum, Oneglia. This is the pasta company's website. They've been around since the 1800s. I wonder how much further this particular rabbit hole goes

Psalm100 ago

I'll look into that more. Thank you.

This just reminded me of something disturbing I discovered last night while looking this up - a photo of a half-naked, uncomfortable-looking little girl that came up in Google images. the more I think about it now, the more I believe it's something that needs to be looked at more closely.

What happened was that I searched on "the art of pasta" (in quotes) and "poster" (not in quotes) on Google - - and began looking through Images. 13 clicks down, I saw the image of a little girl, shirtless and in her underwear, holding her arms around herself as if she's cold, and looking like she might cry, with a bunny costume on her head. The photo description says "Charlotte P." Looking at the source of the image, it says it's from a Yelp review of an Italian restaurant in New Orleans.

I don't quite understand how images show up in Google images, since at times when you go to the actual page, an image won't be there. I went to the Yelp page and looked through all the images I could find, but this one wasn't there.

This is the disturbing image. I blurred the girl's chest since she seems to be developing a bit though still very young, and also placed a bar across her eyes to hide her identity.

https://i.sli.mg/ecvoCC.png

pmichel ago

I live in New Orleans and this little girl resembles someone I know...where can Ifind this image?

Psalm100 ago

I found it by typing the following into a Google search box:

"the art of pasta" poster

"The art of pasta" is in quotes while pasta isn't. Then I clicked on images and this was about 13 page clicks down.

I've discovered since I posted this that the girl is almost certainly the daughter of the couple who the place. A photo from the mother's instagram:

https://i.sli.mg/Bppec5.png

The restaurant seems to have a Comet Ping Pong air:

https://www.instagram.com/explore/locations/259137085/arabella-casa-di-pasta/

TheAngelofThursday ago

what the fuck is with these places

empty street with trash and a pair of shoes, two comments

qt_budToo much dancin'

pattistallardWouldn't be surprised if there wasn't an abandoned strapless bra nearby.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BLUXRzsDQc0/

And this...half naked woman with butt tassles.

katcalicoSee me at Arabella's Casa di Pasta November 30. Be astounded and amazed #authenticjazz #magic

https://www.instagram.com/p/BNNSUNihd_4/

Psalm100 ago

Whoah! Taking a look at their Instagram, there is a picture of a little girl, also identified as Charlotte, who is interacting with a stripper within this place. Wouldn't that be illegal? She's likely the same girl as in that photo:

"apierlas Charlotte and her best friend GoGo"

http://sli.mg/dQtqK9

http://archive.is/7uWdN

https://www.instagram.com/p/BCPAJ3wym2R/

CWenstra ago

Did you notice the star and moon behind the girl's right shoulder? Just thought it was funny that it was there...

Psalm100 ago

Yes I did after I posted this thread. That in itself seems like it might be part of a code.

I'm wondering if this is something that should be reported to the authorities. Is there a possible innocent explanation for this picture?

CWenstra ago

Nah, I've discounted even the sign idea. That stuff is everywhere. I just thought it was funny I found something. Example of confirmation bias.

UglyTruth ago

In the photo there's no e in rode, its "willie the walrus rod the fat juicy chicken".

From the too much information department....

The [male walrus] possess a large baculum (penis bone), up to 63 cm (25 in) in length, the largest of any land mammal, both in absolute size and relative to body size. http://infogalactic.com/info/Walrus

Willy is of course slang for penis.

chicken A term used to describe a young (generally gay) male; often used with connotations of twink.

(See also: chicken hawk) Did you see the chicken Ryan brought to the party? That boy was like, seventeen!

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=chicken&page=2

Psalm100 ago

I didn't give the "rod" part much consideration, even though I did notice it. Possibly an adult not only told the children what to write, but how to spell things.

Psalm100 ago

It seems similarly strange that a child would just happen to write "I like cheese on pizza." That also seems like it was probably coaching.

Psalm100 ago

Children have a distinct style of writing which adults really can't completely reproduce. So if adults want something in child-like writing badly enough, they have to have children do it for them. That could be what's behind some of the artwork here.

LadyMinx ago

I think everybody on this thread did the measurement thing with their 2 index fingers... like 25 inches? Lmbo!

UglyTruth ago

Kids joke: What does a walrus have in common with Tupperware?

ThinCrust ago

Well, what?

UglyTruth ago

They both like a tight seal.

Psalm100 ago

I did notice that, but often children misspell things so I didn't think to mention it. But that could be meaningful.

It doesn't sound at all like a sentence that a child would think up, especially when talking about how they like pizza. It sounds a lot more like something a child was coached to write.

UglyTruth ago

I'd read it as a double entrende, like the pasta art. No way is this all a coincidence, Besta is advertising thet they're pedo friendly.

LadyMinx ago

Sounds like the name of a book. BRB.

LadyMinx ago

Not much out there. Willie the Walrus was a character on the "Sonic Boom" cartoon series, a registered trademark of Shoneys, a "save the walrus" video on YT, a pro-brushing Dental character Didn't see much else.

concernedaboutitall ago

Wierd. The American party doesn't seem very popular. https://m.facebook.com/amerparty 30 likes

The artwork at Besta is very odd under the circumstances.

SpikyAube ago

Especially because there's nowhere for kids to hang out or sit, so it's like a bunch of kids were asked specifically to make this art for the wall in there, not like over time they've collected bits of artwork and doodles done by kids that have eaten at the restaurant. Implies that they have a lot to do with kids even though it doesn't really look like a kids place, it looks like the kind of place you got to when you're wasted at 2am and are determined to eat something fatty.

Psalm100 ago

On the artwork in Besta, most of it is the children's drawings and writings because there isn't much wall space there. The poster called "The Art of Pasta" - with the man, a cook, and boy both wearing masks - is also troubling. There's another thread here just posted too that goes into how often masks come up in pizzagate, and how the old word for mask is domino.

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1505109

Psalm100 ago

It's hard to find out any information about the American Party too. Probably their symbol is unrelated, but on the other hand, who knows? It could just be intentional on the part of the person or people who designed the logo. But oddly enough, it's hard to find any info on who is behind this party, and even their beliefs. They mention in one statement that they don't want to give away too much due to, if I recall correctly, foreign intelligence monitoring.