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hafen ago

Just like "Moderation Logs", this site could use "User vote logs" that show who's voted and how. Perhaps make it toggle-able by mods depending on the sub or something. It's just an idea, but something like that could seriously help combat the shills.

bikergang_accountant ago

Haha, no. If your account is old enough it is invincible. I don't want someone comming after me just because I disliked their particular nsfw contribution.

At the very least the admins have the vote record so they can identify abusive behavior. What we really need and I've argued for about a year and a half now is downvote rations.

When you are new you can't downvote at all, but when you are not new there is no reason you need more then 10 downvotes in a day. Instead they get hundreds per day.

SaneGoatiSwear ago

because i disliked their particular nsfw contribution

so you're saying you downvoat on preference

that's cool, they're your voats to voat with but ummm....

there is no reason you need more than 10 downvoats in a day

um wat?

bikergang_accountant ago

There was a time when none of us could downvote because none of us had the points. No one on the whole site. The site functioned fine. Then a few of us got downvotes but a limited number and you had to think if something was really worthy of downvote. It was reserved for false information and spam. Then everyone could downvote, with an unlimited number, the place turned into a circle jerk, the majority of people left, the alexa rank started going down (alexa rank is logorithmic), and the subverses began to come into disuse because every thinks the same so lets just use /v/whatever. Most subverses died at the same time and there is a reason.

Voat thrived while under attack and down half the time, yet we lost people when it was running fine. Something changed that was more damaging than 50% uptime. Downvote restrictions were the best thing to happen to the site because it forces people to consider other peoples opinions and forces you when you disagree to articulate a better position if you want to negate them at all.

The sad thing is that the shills are almost necissary. What we really should have is the ability to invite people with oposing views that don't need to manipulate votes to express them. I'm against shills but we could have opposing views from regular users but we don't. There's a reason. If you are downvoting 30 things a day you are doing more harm than good, just as the shills downvoting 100 things per day are doing more harm than good.

SaneGoatiSwear ago

something changed that was more damaging than 50% uptime. downvoat restrictions were the best thing to happen to the site.

  1. i would really like you to prove that downvoat freedom = alexa ranking going down, most subverses dying. no really, by all means, show a correlation. until then, this is just wild speculation.

  2. and anyway, i see that freedom with a voat without -ccp restrictions. at this fucking point you don't even hear me saying "and remove all other free speech restrictions," just getting rid of the -ccp restrictions would go a long way to solving this sissue.

  3. "shills are almost necissary." i'd agree, but i think for a different reason. i'd say because we ought be enjoying ourselves and furthering our enjoyment of our time here, rather than freaking out over shills. there will always be shills. identify, name and shame, and move on.

4.

if you are downvoating 30 things a day you are doing more harm than good.

listen here you stupid nigger, i'll have you know back when i voated, i downvoated an average of 70 posts/comments a day. shitposts, shills, and spam. are you saying that you think downvoat curating voat from shills, shitposts, spam... is "doing more harm than good"?

what we should really have is the ability to invite people with oposing views that don't need to manipulate votes to express them

and how do you proposed we go about finding out whether a stranger on the internet is stranger danger or not?

grlldcheese ago

I am so glad you're around.

The shilling is so fucking strong today i don't even feel like arguing.