We at v/Pizzagate just experienced a HUGE shill attack, with many of our members (myself included) reporting that their accounts have been downvoted into the negative numbers LITERALLY overnight. It looks as though someone just went through our post history and downvoted everything between 6-8 times. Here are some screenshots of my post history after this attack: https://sli.mg/AGBHuL , https://sli.mg/ukttB5 , https://sli.mg/CW4J0r , https://sli.mg/4TBOeQ .
We know this was the work of shills, so please post here if this has happened to you. Maybe if we all post proof, the admins can look into what accounts are responsible for this.
At any rate, this sub will not be stopped. If they thought this would somehow discourage us from finding the truth, they were 100% wrong. We will continue to stand as a community and we will not let these hollowed-out human-husks discourage us from bringing the pedophile elite into a glaring spotlight.
@Kevdude, @Crensch, @Millennial_Falcon, @kingkongwaswrong
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smokratez ago
It's happened to lots of us before. Admins won't do anything.
Phobos_Mothership ago
We don't know that.
SaneGoatiSwear ago
oy just so you know, it used to be you could downvoat someone's account all the way back
now it's just to the last 7 days.
once, and he's honest about it, although he doesn't remember how many downvoats it was - i do - a goat - who is not a shill. hear me derka, i don't think you're a shill lol - downvoated me 1,700 times. he woke up every day and downvoated everything i said and did. for a month.
and you know what? GOOD. he got his fee fees out. whatever. they're made up points that don't matter EXCEPT the -ccp limits. although you'll see me pop this huge list of all the restrictions on commenting, posting, and voating, the real kicker is the -ccp limits (post/comment restrictions). if that didn't exist, there'd still be lots and lots of anti-spam protection and -ccp would be a badge of infamy or being atypical to the crowd... not something that restricts.
anyway phobos, i'm the goat always screaming 'voat-conspiracy' over here, so don't get me wrong, shills, yeah, but it could be goats that think you suck. i've seen a number of posts and comments on how you guys don't really gel with the rest of us goats, don't post/comment anywhere else, don't upvoat.. some hope you'll see our goaty ways as applicable, others just say fuck that and block pizzagate.
i'd caution screaming shills until you know. and also, i saw you call for ips before in the other post, i remember long ago atko saying something like a vote logs an ip, i don't remember if they keep it, but asking for ips on voats is like asking the admins to potentially dox users... calling for doxxes isn't exactly very goat like, just fyi.
ANYWAY, enough voat-info dump,
i'm sure you'll get your votes back up in a few minutes, anyway broski, you guys are like 10k strong almost. i lurk v/pizzagate and i regularly see a rolling 2000 people here...
this sticky is an upvoat magnet!
good investigating, phobos.
Phobos_Mothership ago
You are mixing a lot of different messages. You really think that 3 mods and many users on this site got HUNDREDS of downvotes on their post histories OVERNIGHT and it wasn't a controlled downvote brigade?
SaneGoatiSwear ago
what do you mean mixing a lot of different messages?
there's a difference between organization and shills. shills are here for a purpose other than to simply use voat, such as to manipulate opinion or change the conversation, like CTR came here in a giant wave of stupidity a little while back before y'all got here.
they were shills. anyone can downvoat. anyone can pm. so with pms... any group of users could theoretically conspire to downvoat another user.
i mean,
i've had HUNDREDS OF COMMENTS with chains 10+ long of around 4 voats, chains of 16 voats chains of 10 voats, etc. why? because some people here really don't like me and group up and downvoat the hell out of me.
some even organize to sit on v/all/new and downvoat me to "slide" me into voat's oblivion.
it's fun!
are they shills just because of that no hell no, every voater ought be able to downvoat everything and everyone all the time with no restrictions - but hey i'm a voat voat freedom fighter on that right there. most people here settle at the "remove -ccp restrictions" level.
i think some of those downvoating me are shills, but they are downvoating a lot of people here, and using other tactics...
so fuck yeah it was a "controlled downvoat brigade" look at those numbers! but shills? i'd say along what you were saying: fuck 'em and keep investigating.
ah, an idea! sticky the most important lead to follow up right now instead of this
what messages were hard to understand?
Phobos_Mothership ago
No. Why would we do this? This is important.
SaneGoatiSwear ago
what?
which is more important?
and... nothing on anything else i said.. interesting.
Phobos_Mothership ago
Because you are trying to downplay this, and I don't trust that at all. You're not offering anything. There are people on here who are not moderators who now can't downvote or send PMs. That's fucked up, and we want to investigate it.
We can focus on many things at once, we have proven that. Asking a community to focus 'either on one thing or the other' is a fracture tactic.
I am asking the admins to investigate simply whether the accounts in question were associated with paid voting sites. If you don't like this idea, good for you, and you're entitled to that opinion.
Edit: This post was edited to answer your response because I can't comment anymore, because I was downvoted negative.
Edit 2: The only thing I think should be removed is the comment restriction on negative users. I still like the fact that you have to earn the downvote somehow.
Edit 3: I definitely do think that once you gain the ability to downvote by getting 100 ccs, you should never lose that ability to downvote. If that's what you mean, I agree.
SaneGoatiSwear ago
ayyy lol downplay?
i gave you a bit of the history of voat.
i gave you a personal anecdote of my time here on voat - it's called empathizing.
dude, seriously, people can just upvoat them back up, it's not that hard.
wait you're telling me
so you're saying that you want to focus not on the pedo rings but on meta investigations?
rational thinking against your confirmation bias and calls to action such as asking admins for ips is not downplaying, it's rational thinking.
i've been here a fuckton more than you have. the information i've tried to relay to you may actually be of benefit to you.