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VieBleu ago

The sign was owned by longtime Comet liquor store owner for years. Some investigator here found a picture of the exact same sign on the liquor store storefront. Alefantis bought it from him. Somehow a friend was invovled in his buying the sign.

I enjoy this kind of analysis and am not saying nothing else is going on there, but the sign is a pretty dead end - so far, the evidence points to the idea that this sign was already created by someone else before Alefantis even knew he was opening CPP. (Was THAT owner a satanist/pedo running a front? who knows anything is possible in DC at this point. It was another "community beloved" establishment supposedly) Aside from what is below look for the interview of Alefantis in "DC" magazine called "From Scratch" there is discussion about the sign in the very long interview. It should be in some old coments here, I don't have time to find it for you right now sorry. He talks about getting the sign from the liquor store and a friend who helped him get it. It already had the moon and stars on it. To paraphrase Freud, "sometimes a moon and star is just a moon and star."

Here are some links you should look at - https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1472692 https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1430854

PS - I do think Alefantis has a "Pan complex" along the lines of what can be found in 1000 Days of Sodom by Marquis de Sade. There is no way to read that whole awful book, but I've read parts of it - at the begining a character is described with a voracious sexual appetite who looks nearly like Pan or the Horned God with muscular legs and hooved feet when in his rutting and abusing anything and anyone in his path. BTW in that notorious book children are kidnapped and kept in the castle to be tortured sex slaves and a lot of other weird disgusting actions with them like having them serve cream for coffee after dinner out of their anuses. Ewwww sorry I had to say that but Depravity is REAL. anyway hope that ads to your discussion.

RedGreenAlliance ago

Here is a photo of a poster by one of the designers who does work with CPP bands and events

http://sadgirlsguide.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/coldbeat.png

Notice the position of the moons and how they are facing (10pm and 4pm).

Now compare to https://ixquick-proxy.com/do/show_picture.pl?l=english&rais=1&oiu=http%3A%2F%2Fgnosticwarrior.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F06%2FBaphomet-by-Levi.jpg&sp=4a4a73075b5a59eb5edbf370b5d0d41c

No way this is coincidence. All these people are in the know.

As for the fact he bought the cruddy sign and put it on his place, this doesn't debunk anything. If anything it's more suspicious. The first owner was a Freemason. Either Alefantis knew about him, or the sign was well known in "certain circles" for its in your face symbolism. Alefantis probably jumped at it when it was available. He has instant deniabilitybif anyone points to the symbolism "it's from some shop, I was just saving money / keeper by the memory alive / whatever".

The sign is so ugly no young hipster would source it; they'd commission something modern and funky. Not like he is short of artistic friends and contacts; they'd probably do it free for him.

He sourced it because it's laden with symbolism rubbed in the publics face without them being aware

VieBleu ago

Well, I think this is where you need to go with your investigation, because you do have to deal with the probability that the sign was purchased as is reported. The liquor store clearly existed for years. I think digging into the previous owner very deeply would be a great idea - I mean who knows? you could theorize maybe the previous owner was the "go to" guy for a long time and Jimmy Comet took over the front operation, and the rest is just a cover story... The crescent moons do look very similar, and the positioning on that poster and similarity is interesting. But the crescent is a really simple and common symbol too and it is on all 4 corners.

I have to say also, I would drop the argument about it being ugly - it's not a strong argument as it is just an opinion. Personally I find the sign appealing because I like the colors and vintage look of it (this is oviously divorced from the revulsion it provokes at this point because of its associations) so you aren't going to get far with an argument that boils down to taste.

I would look into who was the intermediary person who helped Alefantis procure the sign, as I said it is in this interview in DC Magazine with a lot of his self-described background Here - If you can find out who that is and their associations might lead to something (as well as more the liquor store owner - The Freemason thing is something, but not every Freemason is an insider, you could use more.)

RedGreenAlliance ago

Thanks, I take on board all your points, and regardless of why Alefantis went out of his way to buy another persone old signage, the original players and their backgrounds and motives would be good to investigate (if not lost in time). It is unusual in the extreme to adopt someone's name, logos, signage for a completely new business; most businessmen are egotistic (in a positive sense) i.e. If they are going to invest their emotions money and Labour into a business project they would want to brand it themselves or at least name it. It is very interesting why Alefantis would just outsource all that in this manner. For example he could have used his name as the name of the establishment to build his own personal brand, and leverage some of that influence he has (49th most powerful many in DC?)

I will amend the main post in the next few days.

VieBleu ago

I think that's a good point. He passes it off in the article as a sort of coming together of things - he already had Bucks going, the Thai restaurant two doors down that had been there 30 years closed down, so it was suddenly available, and his friend helped him get the sign, so he just went with the name. (as best I can remember). It is a little slapdash but I suppose plausible. Apparently there is also a term among swingers that a "comet" is a person who may come around from time to time to have swinger sex or something like that. His nickname is Jimmy Comet of course. Anyway Good luck. If you find anything intersting on that owner, ping me with @VieBleu