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SheSaidDestroy ago

I've read a few theories that the CIA and FBI are sparring with each other right now, one theory referring to it as the "deep state" being at war with itself in this manner. I'm cynical of most things by now, but it would certainly be something amazing if the FBI was attempting to actually combat corruption from within like that.

darthveddit ago

Those are the rumors. Apparently they call it the white hats vs. black hats.

SheSaidDestroy ago

I am familiar. My brother is a white hat.

Godwillwin ago

Tell us more! What does your white hat brother say about all this?

SheSaidDestroy ago

He doesn't work in government. He is a professional white hat. I can't even begin to explain the details of his job, because I can barely operate my own computer. But when he tells me about his line of work, he uses that sort of jargon to help me understand it. Black hats are the people who break into systems. White hats are able to do that, and so they can test systems and also defend systems. That is his career. So both "hats" do the same thing, but they have different causes and battle each other. So I understand the concept as it likely applies to the government, if that is what is going on.

Godwillwin ago

Ohhhhh. Ok. The only thing I know of white hats is from Scandal the tv show. David Rosen is the white hat Atty general but they ended up corrupting him. He tries to stay good but has to bad sometimes to protect the good.

Last year I stopped watching Scandal because it got too Wronchy. The Christmas episode had Olivia getting an abortion with the o holy night playing in the background. That was the last episode I watched.

Anyway, I'm starting to think a lot of what happens in scandal has tiny bits of truth to it. Washington is very very very screwed up

JunOS ago

Both are hackers.

White hats use their skills for good, and black hats use their knowledge for personal, monetary, or political gain. The boundries of ethics are real, especially on the interent and the whole legal vs. ethical debate is always a fun topic...

White hats are moreso known as penetration testers. They are up to date with the tricks of the trade and are usually consultants who are hired "legally" to test what a black hat would do to see how their network or systems can handle black hat hacking. This can be brute force, social engineering, phishing, physical access testing.

Once i heard of a consultant pee under a door to affect the sensor on the otherside to think a human (something 98.6degrees) was on the otherside and gain physical access to a server room. (Usually required by fire code so people arent trapped inside) guy ended up costing tens of thousands of dollars because the piss actually hit some equipment, lol.

I hope thay clears it up, i tried as easy as i could.

One more to know... script kiddies. People who are new to hacking and try malicious code usually 3 to 4 months behind the curve to see what kind of damage they can do. Nothing of their own work.

SheSaidDestroy ago

My brother said script kiddies usually wind up with a bunch of malicious stuff on their own systems, because "hats" of either type will put bait out there like "download this to ddos someone" type stuff and so the script kiddies download it and it's full of viruses that they don't even realize are getting into their systems, which then the "hats" then use in different ways, but the script kiddie still goes to jail for everything. So yeah, definitely do not recommend lol.