Of course the CIA is behind child trafficking. Look no further than The Finders organization out of Wichita Kansas with connections to Michael Aquino mastermind of PsyOps psychological warfare (CIA). He was also behind the California daycare tunnels in which Ted Gunderson exposed. This man is PURE EVIL and hundreds of kids were abused in the hands of this predator. He also did much of the MK Ultra child training. These are facts.
also @Truthseeker3000 Finders didn't originate from ICT, although a faction might still be there - might not. The home faction of the group that was caught (two men w/ 6 kids) were carrying info w/ them when they were picked up in TN that identified a residence in D.C. along w/ a warehouse and other contacts. Here is a great piece by David McGowan: https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Document:Finders_Keepers
The Finders were components of a CIA operative but this group was low-level.
Ted Gunderson & the McMartin Case - according to the mother of one of the little victims who was attending the McMartin day care center - the MOTHER found evidence of the tunnels, Gunderson caught wind of it, pushed his way into the investigation, moved in with her to "help"... started causing a lot of problems with the case in terms of sabotaging it, claimed to have found the tunnels himself, stiffed the excavation team so they never finished, and she claims he tried to poison her. This is one of the MANY allegations on Gunderson. So be wary - some of his stuff is good but there's enough info out there to suggest he is dirty. COINTELPRO dirty.
I'm aware. The last known info of their location is that they were in hiding in KS as I mentioned but still active. I don't have the same view as u do of Ted Gunderson. Of course they want to discredit him by any means possible. He lost his life to the fight, I give him that. I don't believe your theory of the one child's mother over Ted. No way I believe he tried to poison the child's mother and that the mother found the covered up tunnels herself either. Please don't throw this kind of stuff out there. It's not factual, its your opinion. But hey, we can agree to disagree on it ;)
Yes - just as I said. You've done very little researching into Gunderson. You've watched a couple videos, got the impression he's a "nice old man" and was poisoned wrongfully and now you're compassionate and all-knowing.
This isn't about you and it isn't a contest about who is right/wrong. It's about getting to the truth and refusing to acknowledge that you don't know everything there is to know about someone you simply read a little about on the internet is ignorant. Referencing him like you did without any caveat to the shit-ton of controversy around him, is irresponsible. THAT is promoting someone. Get over yourself.
The argument was over with your first couple of posts. And now you're so delusional with your own self-importance that you think Dr. Arrigo actually gives a fuck what you think.
We're now in shill territory. Except that everyone is so busy calling ea other shills that I just say you're an idiot. Since you're completely unwilling to entertain the likelihood that you don't know everything there is to know on the internet... you're just a big, bloated idiot.
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Truthseeker3000 ago
Of course the CIA is behind child trafficking. Look no further than The Finders organization out of Wichita Kansas with connections to Michael Aquino mastermind of PsyOps psychological warfare (CIA). He was also behind the California daycare tunnels in which Ted Gunderson exposed. This man is PURE EVIL and hundreds of kids were abused in the hands of this predator. He also did much of the MK Ultra child training. These are facts.
Nadakai ago
I cant find anything about this group in wichita, got any leads?
Truthseeker3000 ago
Really?! Where are u looking? For starters try googling The Finders Wichita Kansas. Petrie is a fvcking creep 100% certain he's CIA.
Nadakai ago
Ive found stuff about him, but I cant find anything related to wichita, which is near where I am from
hedy ago
also @Truthseeker3000 Finders didn't originate from ICT, although a faction might still be there - might not. The home faction of the group that was caught (two men w/ 6 kids) were carrying info w/ them when they were picked up in TN that identified a residence in D.C. along w/ a warehouse and other contacts. Here is a great piece by David McGowan: https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Document:Finders_Keepers
He's written a lot of good stuff: https://www.pdf-archive.com/2015/01/12/david-mcgowan-programmed-to-kill/david-mcgowan-programmed-to-kill.pdf http://ppia.wikia.com/wiki/The_Pedophocracy
The Finders were components of a CIA operative but this group was low-level.
Ted Gunderson & the McMartin Case - according to the mother of one of the little victims who was attending the McMartin day care center - the MOTHER found evidence of the tunnels, Gunderson caught wind of it, pushed his way into the investigation, moved in with her to "help"... started causing a lot of problems with the case in terms of sabotaging it, claimed to have found the tunnels himself, stiffed the excavation team so they never finished, and she claims he tried to poison her. This is one of the MANY allegations on Gunderson. So be wary - some of his stuff is good but there's enough info out there to suggest he is dirty. COINTELPRO dirty.
Nadakai ago
Alot of good info here, thanks for the input!
Truthseeker3000 ago
I'm aware. The last known info of their location is that they were in hiding in KS as I mentioned but still active. I don't have the same view as u do of Ted Gunderson. Of course they want to discredit him by any means possible. He lost his life to the fight, I give him that. I don't believe your theory of the one child's mother over Ted. No way I believe he tried to poison the child's mother and that the mother found the covered up tunnels herself either. Please don't throw this kind of stuff out there. It's not factual, its your opinion. But hey, we can agree to disagree on it ;)
hedy ago
You've done very little research on Gunderson, that much is clear. When you have, then we can talk. Until then, stop promoting him - he's dirty.
Truthseeker3000 ago
I've done much as I've stated and I'm not promoting anyone. End it.
hedy ago
Yes - just as I said. You've done very little researching into Gunderson. You've watched a couple videos, got the impression he's a "nice old man" and was poisoned wrongfully and now you're compassionate and all-knowing.
This isn't about you and it isn't a contest about who is right/wrong. It's about getting to the truth and refusing to acknowledge that you don't know everything there is to know about someone you simply read a little about on the internet is ignorant. Referencing him like you did without any caveat to the shit-ton of controversy around him, is irresponsible. THAT is promoting someone. Get over yourself.
Truthseeker3000 ago
I said we could agree to disagree but now ur telling me to get over myself. U just want to fight and argue and I'm not biting.
Goodbye Sue Arrigo.
hedy ago
The argument was over with your first couple of posts. And now you're so delusional with your own self-importance that you think Dr. Arrigo actually gives a fuck what you think.
We're now in shill territory. Except that everyone is so busy calling ea other shills that I just say you're an idiot. Since you're completely unwilling to entertain the likelihood that you don't know everything there is to know on the internet... you're just a big, bloated idiot.