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EndThePizza ago

Whoa

I came across ECPAT a while ago. How big of an organization is this? If it's big enough, then it's not very strange, but if it's really small, then it's quite a coincidence.

After I made this post about their sponsors being hotels, I changed my mind and thought it must be innocent. However, if there's anything fishy going on with ECPAT then it becomes suspicious again.

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1440019

I'll have to try to remember how I stumbled across it in the first place

theblackblood ago

The ECPAT itself appears to be quite large, with the representative NGO, Beyond Borders, being based seemingly in Canada however the branch that is opposite Comet Ping Pong is at a different URL and seems like a subsidiary branch or something suspect. It's quite hard to distinguish but as stated in my initial post it puts a heavy emphasis on Haiti which the wider organisation does not appear to. This strikes me as strange but may be nothing at all. Regarding the hotels, like you say it could be innocent but that does strike me as unusual. I'd not expect to see such a uniformity of sponsorship for an anti-child trafficking organisation, I'd expect to see a variety and I'd certainly not expect to see only hotels in particular. I'll look into this further and comment back with my thoughts once I've read your Polaris Project link.

theblackblood ago

Google search terms "Clinton Foundation hotels":

Clinton Foundation in Haiti:

  • Advancing Education in Haiti.
  • Caracol Industrial Park.
  • Caribbean Harvest.
  • Facilitating Private Sector Investment in Haiti.
  • Growing the Haitian Coffee Sector.
  • Marriott Hotel Project.
  • Powering Haiti with Clean Energy.
  • Supporting Haitian Artisans.

The Clinton Foundation funds Marriott in Haiti and in turn Marriott funds the ECPAT. These links could be totally innocent (see below comment about the "Does Your Hotel Know?" training scheme), but I dunno.

theblackblood ago

From an ECPAT page regarding victims of sex trafficking being exploited in hotels.

"Estimates state that 100,000 American children are victims of sex trafficking in the United States and 300,000 are at risk. Over 4,000 children just in NYC were found to be victims of sexual exploitation, and the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children (NCMEC) received over 500,000 reports of sexual exploitation in 2013 alone.

Katrina Owens, survivor of trafficking and victim advocate, was exploited in prostitution the United States and in New York City beginning at the age of 16. She spoke about her experience of being taken to hotels, “Some of the top hotels they look at you and they know; its like when your eyes meet you know that something might not be right, ‘should I say something, should I not say anything, or should I just turn my head?’ And quite often, they turn their head.”"

Apparently:

Despite the number of victims, the hotel industry has been taking a stand. “We’ve made a lot of progress working with hotels in the United States. The travel industry has become really active because they know they can make a huge difference in the lives of victims,” says Michelle Guelbart, Director of Private Sector Engagement for ECPAT-USA. “With almost every training I lead, someone tells a story about how they have witnessed something on a hotel property. Our hope is that training to prevent and identify child sex trafficking becomes standard with the hospitality industry.”

My impression is that the hotels seem to be working with the ECPAT to help minimise trafficking via a training scheme called "Does Your Hotel Know?" as described in the above link. This would explain the number of hotels funding the organisation.

Nonetheless I feel like this is worthy of greater scrutiny and perhaps some emphasis on investigating major US hotels, especially the higher end establishments, would prove beneficial to pizzagate.

theblackblood ago

Again, could be spurious but it feels equally like there could be something in this. Click for source.

Haitians such as Andre, however, noticed that very little of this aid money actually got to poor people in Haiti. Some projects championed by the Clintons, such as the building of industrial parks and posh hotels, cost a great deal of money and offered scarce benefits to the truly needy.

[...]

Coincidentally the United States government paid Digicel $45 million to open a hotel in Port-au-Prince. Now perhaps it could be argued that Haitians could use a high-priced hotel to attract foreign investors and provide jobs for locals. Thus far, however, this particular hotel seems to employ only a few dozen locals, which hardly justifies the sizable investment that went into building it. Moreover, there are virtually no foreign investors; the rooms are mostly unoccupied; the ones that are taken seem mainly for the benefit of Digicel’s visiting teams.