I understand voat's culture of throwing off censorship and tone policing, and yes everyone has a right to say whatever they want, and we should be careful of blanket rules on tone, words, subjects.
But I really think it's pretty lame to kneejerk apply that to every situation ever by swearing, throwing obscenities and slurs, and being downright mean. It's not constructive and it actually serves to make people ignore you.
No one is trying to control your freedom - we're just looking at the outcome we're trying to drive to, and looking at the parameters required to get there.
From our perspective, 'old goats' coming here and trying to tell us what to do is a form of control. OP isn't calling for a rule change, or comment censorship or anything like that. He's just asking the community to change their titles, and consider what they post and how they use their upvotes and downvotes. This is 100% fair, and if he's being upvoted then the community agrees (unless in the case of bot buys, but why would shills support this argument?). You guys can bitch about it, but telling OP that he can't ask for this and that he's not allowed to say this is a form of control and censorship - and if you guys were moderators and ENFORCING this by say, deleting OPs post that would be a form of control and censorship. Remember that fascism exists in every extreme.
Like it or not, this is a different sub to a normal conversation sub. It's an investigation, but it's also one of the public faces of pizzagate. And sure you can selfishly drive your voat culture agenda, but does that serve the purposes of this particular sub? I don't think so. Could it actively sabotage this sub? Yeah it could.
Imagine if the top post of the sub was 'A CALL TO ARMS' - and then the media got a hold of that and corresponded it to the comet pizza shooting? Not nice.
well i tend to "kneejerk" react to this kind of shit.
why is this tagged "important" tell me. it's not important.
you all came to VOAT the last bastion of free speech on the net.
you didn't go to imzy to have a "pizzagate" safe space.
op directly calls for the end to protected free speech in the us in v/pizzagate, which is FINE right because it's a private sub and you can do what you want. see: v/fatpeoplehate and it's dissent rule (waaay over 1000 bans and growing! :)
We need to have absolutely zero tolerance for violent or hateful speech here.
but this is an attempt to rope legally protected free speech in with absolutely not legal speech. so don't even get me started.
maybe you're not referring to me, but i never said anything like
trying to tell us what to do
i explained that there's a fucking difference between hate speech and violent speech, and it's well known to be a tactic of shills to rope them in together while concern trolling that we police our own language.
i didn't fucking demand anything.
i asked why this is tagged. you didn't answer.
selfishly drive your voat culture agenda
free speech is not just the voat culture. lol agenda. free speech is a human right. goddamn it man, now you sound like one.
do you want the investigation to lead to arrests and consequences like jailtime for pedophile elites?
because becoming a place of (self)censorship in the name of the search for truth is fucking ridiculous.
free speech is not just the voat culture. lol agenda. free speech is a human right. goddamn it man, now you sound like one.
Um no one said anything about censoring anyone. OP made a post with his thoughts and some suggestions. There are no rule changes. OP is allowed to say whatever he wants. Voat culture isn't 'free speech', voat culture is 'prove that I'm allowed to say whatever I want by spouting vitriol and expletives'. If it was free speech, you would realise OP is allowed to say whatever he wants. You can get mad etc but 2 bad for you.
Also yeah label me as 'one of them' when I don't agree with you. Or maybe.. you could try to understand our POV instead of implicitly calling for OP to not say what he's saying.
And you do have an agenda - if you think you don't, you're deluded. Any extreme is fascism.
I didn't tag it so I don't know, but I'm not against the tag, esp the points on post quality and title sensationalism. Pretty good points imo.
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kingkongwaswrong ago
@sanegoatiswear @grlldcheese @darthveddit @mightyyetgentle7 @crensch
I understand voat's culture of throwing off censorship and tone policing, and yes everyone has a right to say whatever they want, and we should be careful of blanket rules on tone, words, subjects.
But I really think it's pretty lame to kneejerk apply that to every situation ever by swearing, throwing obscenities and slurs, and being downright mean. It's not constructive and it actually serves to make people ignore you.
No one is trying to control your freedom - we're just looking at the outcome we're trying to drive to, and looking at the parameters required to get there.
From our perspective, 'old goats' coming here and trying to tell us what to do is a form of control. OP isn't calling for a rule change, or comment censorship or anything like that. He's just asking the community to change their titles, and consider what they post and how they use their upvotes and downvotes. This is 100% fair, and if he's being upvoted then the community agrees (unless in the case of bot buys, but why would shills support this argument?). You guys can bitch about it, but telling OP that he can't ask for this and that he's not allowed to say this is a form of control and censorship - and if you guys were moderators and ENFORCING this by say, deleting OPs post that would be a form of control and censorship. Remember that fascism exists in every extreme.
Like it or not, this is a different sub to a normal conversation sub. It's an investigation, but it's also one of the public faces of pizzagate. And sure you can selfishly drive your voat culture agenda, but does that serve the purposes of this particular sub? I don't think so. Could it actively sabotage this sub? Yeah it could.
Imagine if the top post of the sub was 'A CALL TO ARMS' - and then the media got a hold of that and corresponded it to the comet pizza shooting? Not nice.
SaneGoatiSwear ago
well i tend to "kneejerk" react to this kind of shit.
why is this tagged "important" tell me. it's not important.
you all came to VOAT the last bastion of free speech on the net.
you didn't go to imzy to have a "pizzagate" safe space.
op directly calls for the end to protected free speech in the us in v/pizzagate, which is FINE right because it's a private sub and you can do what you want. see: v/fatpeoplehate and it's dissent rule (waaay over 1000 bans and growing! :)
but this is an attempt to rope legally protected free speech in with absolutely not legal speech. so don't even get me started.
maybe you're not referring to me, but i never said anything like
i explained that there's a fucking difference between hate speech and violent speech, and it's well known to be a tactic of shills to rope them in together while concern trolling that we police our own language.
i didn't fucking demand anything.
i asked why this is tagged. you didn't answer.
free speech is not just the voat culture. lol agenda. free speech is a human right. goddamn it man, now you sound like one.
do you want the investigation to lead to arrests and consequences like jailtime for pedophile elites?
because becoming a place of (self)censorship in the name of the search for truth is fucking ridiculous.
kingkongwaswrong ago
Um no one said anything about censoring anyone. OP made a post with his thoughts and some suggestions. There are no rule changes. OP is allowed to say whatever he wants. Voat culture isn't 'free speech', voat culture is 'prove that I'm allowed to say whatever I want by spouting vitriol and expletives'. If it was free speech, you would realise OP is allowed to say whatever he wants. You can get mad etc but 2 bad for you.
Also yeah label me as 'one of them' when I don't agree with you. Or maybe.. you could try to understand our POV instead of implicitly calling for OP to not say what he's saying.
And you do have an agenda - if you think you don't, you're deluded. Any extreme is fascism.
I didn't tag it so I don't know, but I'm not against the tag, esp the points on post quality and title sensationalism. Pretty good points imo.
SaneGoatiSwear ago
lurk maor, faggot.
ahahahahahahahaha
assuming you can butthurt the sane goat is assuming you can walk barefoot on the sun
good points are great cover for shilling.