I understand voat's culture of throwing off censorship and tone policing, and yes everyone has a right to say whatever they want, and we should be careful of blanket rules on tone, words, subjects.
But I really think it's pretty lame to kneejerk apply that to every situation ever by swearing, throwing obscenities and slurs, and being downright mean. It's not constructive and it actually serves to make people ignore you.
No one is trying to control your freedom - we're just looking at the outcome we're trying to drive to, and looking at the parameters required to get there.
From our perspective, 'old goats' coming here and trying to tell us what to do is a form of control. OP isn't calling for a rule change, or comment censorship or anything like that. He's just asking the community to change their titles, and consider what they post and how they use their upvotes and downvotes. This is 100% fair, and if he's being upvoted then the community agrees (unless in the case of bot buys, but why would shills support this argument?). You guys can bitch about it, but telling OP that he can't ask for this and that he's not allowed to say this is a form of control and censorship - and if you guys were moderators and ENFORCING this by say, deleting OPs post that would be a form of control and censorship. Remember that fascism exists in every extreme.
Like it or not, this is a different sub to a normal conversation sub. It's an investigation, but it's also one of the public faces of pizzagate. And sure you can selfishly drive your voat culture agenda, but does that serve the purposes of this particular sub? I don't think so. Could it actively sabotage this sub? Yeah it could.
Imagine if the top post of the sub was 'A CALL TO ARMS' - and then the media got a hold of that and corresponded it to the comet pizza shooting? Not nice.
I'm proving a point. Point being is it doesn't matter what people say. We have a singleness of purpose here it doesn't matter how we expose this, it's that we do. Your discouraging people by saying they must be "professional". Do they also need a permit?
I'm not saying 'professional', but it does help to have posts titled correctly, and in a non sensational way. No one is calling for rules implementation, OP is just appealing to the community, as is his right, and his suggestions are good imo.
We have a singleness of purpose here it doesn't matter how we expose this, it's that we do.
yes you're right. But we also have to remember the MSM narratives and be kinda careful not to fall into any of the traps theyre setting.
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kingkongwaswrong ago
@sanegoatiswear @grlldcheese @darthveddit @mightyyetgentle7 @crensch
I understand voat's culture of throwing off censorship and tone policing, and yes everyone has a right to say whatever they want, and we should be careful of blanket rules on tone, words, subjects.
But I really think it's pretty lame to kneejerk apply that to every situation ever by swearing, throwing obscenities and slurs, and being downright mean. It's not constructive and it actually serves to make people ignore you.
No one is trying to control your freedom - we're just looking at the outcome we're trying to drive to, and looking at the parameters required to get there.
From our perspective, 'old goats' coming here and trying to tell us what to do is a form of control. OP isn't calling for a rule change, or comment censorship or anything like that. He's just asking the community to change their titles, and consider what they post and how they use their upvotes and downvotes. This is 100% fair, and if he's being upvoted then the community agrees (unless in the case of bot buys, but why would shills support this argument?). You guys can bitch about it, but telling OP that he can't ask for this and that he's not allowed to say this is a form of control and censorship - and if you guys were moderators and ENFORCING this by say, deleting OPs post that would be a form of control and censorship. Remember that fascism exists in every extreme.
Like it or not, this is a different sub to a normal conversation sub. It's an investigation, but it's also one of the public faces of pizzagate. And sure you can selfishly drive your voat culture agenda, but does that serve the purposes of this particular sub? I don't think so. Could it actively sabotage this sub? Yeah it could.
Imagine if the top post of the sub was 'A CALL TO ARMS' - and then the media got a hold of that and corresponded it to the comet pizza shooting? Not nice.
darthveddit ago
I'm proving a point. Point being is it doesn't matter what people say. We have a singleness of purpose here it doesn't matter how we expose this, it's that we do. Your discouraging people by saying they must be "professional". Do they also need a permit?
kingkongwaswrong ago
I'm not saying 'professional', but it does help to have posts titled correctly, and in a non sensational way. No one is calling for rules implementation, OP is just appealing to the community, as is his right, and his suggestions are good imo.
yes you're right. But we also have to remember the MSM narratives and be kinda careful not to fall into any of the traps theyre setting.
darthveddit ago
How do you know it's a he? I was thinking it was girl this whole time.
kingkongwaswrong ago
I don't, I just assume dude for most people on the internet