They are. Trump said DraintheSwamp, he didn't say Drain the DNC :). Why do you think people on both sides are fighting against him? The louder they scream, the more terrified they are. LOOKING AT YOU JOHN McCAIN< PAUL RYAN< MITCH McCONNEL....
Makes me wonder just how widespread it is. There might be one giant pedo ring that we saw a part of at Franklin, or in the page boy scandals, and now Pizzagate. Who knows when it started? Maybe it has always been going on, but nobody could see the full picture and therefore could never stop it. They take down individuals, but the group lives on. Scary.
Pedophilia and satanic torture rings go back hundres of yeas - it's well-known in Europe. There was a surge of victims discussing their experiences as children in the 70s-80s, which some have attributed more to the women's movement (making it more acceptable to speak out about atrocities in the home life) more than an increase in criminal activity.
ETA: There is also reason to think that military experimentation in the 60s included mind-alteration with various drugs and this also led to people having acute memories surface later in life.
If there was any assumption that the pedo satanic rings are somehow partisan you need to educate yourself on the history of it.
You also need to realize that child indecencies are THE premier means of blackmail. It's entirely possible that outside of those who are undoubtedly sick criminals, some of these people were either lured (still guilty, though) or literally were framed.
He studied the sexual behavior of men in the 50s by interviewing men about their sexual activities, which included illegal sexual activity with children. He has been accused of "promoting" it by not reporting the illegal activity or making an effort to stop the adults involved - during the time he was interviewing the perpetrators. I wouldn't say he "normalized" anything but he was complicit in a way, for not reporting it, prioritizing his research instead.
I'm not a scholar on Kinsey but I've never read anything about his (formal) study of sadistic activities. ETA: I did come across some accounts of his own sexual behavior - later in life he was studying sexual behavior and pain sensors (Kinsey suffered an untimely death due, at least in part, to "orchitis," a lethal infection in his testicles that followed years of sadistic, orgiastic "self-abuse" or perhaps because he circumsized himself).
The most sensational accusations against him include his studies that supposedly involve acts described to him on 317 - 2000 infants/children. This is unfounded although there were many children involved in the activities described in the interviews. And, sadly, this is a DROP IN THE BUCKET of the crimes on children... His publishings might have had an influence but probably only on those who were already pedophiles.
I think you will find trying to pass off the convulsions of infants as young as one as some kind of indicator of sexual readiness IS trying to normalise sadistic pedophilia.
Quite odd he should be a Crowley fan. Friend of Nazi and lauded in the vapid MSM in a masquerade as some kind of forward thinking scientist.
Consider that it is spread exponentially. If you understand that, then it's easier to understand how it has become so vast. Like as described in the article linked by the OP, children who are sexually abused get elements of the experience stuck in their minds. It is like it is seared into the mind permanently because it is so traumatic, similar to how people with PTSD will struggle with flashbacks/nightmares and the trauma just keeps getting repeated by the brain. It happened to me, as well. Even as a very young child, I found myself compulsively drawing elements of the abuse. People who don't get any form of help are at risk of becoming abusers themselves. People who don't get help and are then groomed to become abusers, do become abusers. People who get help are much less likely to become abusers. Luckily for me by the time I reached adulthood, I had therapy, and all that remained was the S&M factor to my sexuality, but nothing involving children in my mind. But I do know how it works. It is very difficult to be honest about it, because you don't want to people to suspect you. So most never speak about it, don't get help and then are at risk for becoming abusers. But if you understand this, and you imagine one predator abusing even a dozen children, boom that 12 more people (from 1) who are at risk. In some cases it was found that one abuser damaged hundreds of children. If these child victims never receive help and are groomed, than that is how the problem spreads so rapidly. That is how the problem has become so vast.
It's also spread throughout the upper echelons of society all over the world because of secret societies - they all swear allegiance to one another above anything else and they get one another good jobs and promotions in powerful industries and over a few decades the top tiers of government, law, media, policing, entertainment etc, are filled with these depraved people. Those who aren't involved are either compromised and blackmailed, killed, turn a blind eye out of fear, or leave the industry out of disgust, perhaps try to get the word out but end up being labelled a conspiracy theorist and so have to make do with writing a blog or making Youtube videos, screaming 'behind you!' at the world from inside a soundproof room, while watching a dark and poisonous cloud billow up around the human race as they all blindly work and consume, work and consume, unknowingly feeding the fires this monstrous putrid apocalyptic cloud spews forth from.
My theory is that it started with the aristocracy and the monarchy way way back, and using their influence they would appoint similar-minded perverts and weirdos to positions close to them, and as time went on and the power of the monarchy faded and democracies sprung up, by then they had still managed to collect a fair number of sick fucks around the power centers. After a few hundred years of that, along with the effects of globalism, you can see how eventually you could end up with the majority of the people in power worldwide belonging to this vile sadistic secret organisation, or maybe not even organisation, maybe it's more of a mindset that ties various different organisations or societies together enough so that they'll generally look out for each other.
I hope all of us real human beings can now forget all the stuff we've been arguing about for centuries, like religion and race and land and beliefs and who does or doesn't deserve welfare and who does or doesn't deserve to emigrate or immigrate etc, and realise we're all on one side really, it only us and them, that is the only distinction that matters now.
One thing we must begin to understand is the spiritual aspect as to why these types of abuses against innocent children occur and why they are carried out by many of the abused themselves later in their lives. Regarding this, I find Ryan Loskarn's suicided note very revealing.
He explained in the note how this abuse had become an obsession that controlled him. It was the first and last thing he thought about during the day. He knew it was wrong yet could not "fix himself". And THIS is exactly what happens to people like Alefantis, Podesta, Clinton, and all those involved in this pedophile cult. They get ritualistically abused as children by other members of this Satanic cult and little by little began to lose control of their humanity. If they lost control, who is controlling them? ...the obsession? I think not because Loskarn knew it was wrong and still could not stop it. In the extreme cases, I believe they are completely given over to evil and evil completely controls them. That's the reason why it is perfectly normal to rape, torture and murder little innocent children for them. That's why they joke about it. That's why they have "art" pieces to remind them and relive the experience. It becomes a celebration of evil for them. And the more innocent the victim, the more joy and powerful they feel. They stop being human and become the evil. It is something most us can't understand because we have not been taken over by evil.
To this I would add the religion of Satanism, which has gone on from the times of Babylon and Egypt. It may sound crazy, but these people sacrifice children to please the demons they worship. Do the proper research and you'll find it.
We are fighting a spiritual war, not only an earthly one.
President Wilson was blackmailed into passing income tax, the Fed, and WWI - just by having an affair with a consenting adult woman. J Edgar Hoover was controllable just because he had sex with consenting adult men. Now those things are legal, and not considered beyond the pale. The blackmail control stakes had to be raised to pedophilia. If pedophilia ever becomes legal, then initiation will have to involve human sacrifice and cannibalism. Unfortunately, the Podestas (and who knows how many others) would be ok with that.
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MeatballPizza ago
Connected to Hastert?
This shows also the pedos are on both sides of the political aisle.
MAGABoomer ago
They are. Trump said DraintheSwamp, he didn't say Drain the DNC :). Why do you think people on both sides are fighting against him? The louder they scream, the more terrified they are. LOOKING AT YOU JOHN McCAIN< PAUL RYAN< MITCH McCONNEL....
Mrs_Ogynist01 ago
Lindsey Graham
reasonedandinformed ago
Very insightful. It is very important for people to see that this is not political but An issue of those in power.
RandomInterjector ago
Makes me wonder just how widespread it is. There might be one giant pedo ring that we saw a part of at Franklin, or in the page boy scandals, and now Pizzagate. Who knows when it started? Maybe it has always been going on, but nobody could see the full picture and therefore could never stop it. They take down individuals, but the group lives on. Scary.
Bindlestiff ago
in world history child abuse and pedophilia were the norm. not the exception.
hedy ago
Pedophilia and satanic torture rings go back hundres of yeas - it's well-known in Europe. There was a surge of victims discussing their experiences as children in the 70s-80s, which some have attributed more to the women's movement (making it more acceptable to speak out about atrocities in the home life) more than an increase in criminal activity.
ETA: There is also reason to think that military experimentation in the 60s included mind-alteration with various drugs and this also led to people having acute memories surface later in life.
If there was any assumption that the pedo satanic rings are somehow partisan you need to educate yourself on the history of it.
ETA:
5000+ Pentagon employees involved with cp https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1449388
NASA employees caught with CP http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3184951/NASA-employees-caught-buying-child-porn-site-showed-three-year-olds-abused-escape-prosecution-names-kept-secret.html
List of gov officials already implicated previously https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1458233
You also need to realize that child indecencies are THE premier means of blackmail. It's entirely possible that outside of those who are undoubtedly sick criminals, some of these people were either lured (still guilty, though) or literally were framed.
noElbittowers ago
It has been going on as long as freemasonry
Atlantean120 ago
^thousands of years, not hundreds. This is biblical shit, go back to Babylon and Egypt.
hedy ago
TRUE, I meant in terms of American history.
ProbablyHoly ago
Yes but sadistic pedophilia was actively studied and normalised by Alfred Kinsey during the 1950s, right?
hedy ago
He studied the sexual behavior of men in the 50s by interviewing men about their sexual activities, which included illegal sexual activity with children. He has been accused of "promoting" it by not reporting the illegal activity or making an effort to stop the adults involved - during the time he was interviewing the perpetrators. I wouldn't say he "normalized" anything but he was complicit in a way, for not reporting it, prioritizing his research instead.
I'm not a scholar on Kinsey but I've never read anything about his (formal) study of sadistic activities. ETA: I did come across some accounts of his own sexual behavior - later in life he was studying sexual behavior and pain sensors (Kinsey suffered an untimely death due, at least in part, to "orchitis," a lethal infection in his testicles that followed years of sadistic, orgiastic "self-abuse" or perhaps because he circumsized himself).
The most sensational accusations against him include his studies that supposedly involve acts described to him on 317 - 2000 infants/children. This is unfounded although there were many children involved in the activities described in the interviews. And, sadly, this is a DROP IN THE BUCKET of the crimes on children... His publishings might have had an influence but probably only on those who were already pedophiles.
ProbablyHoly ago
I think you will find trying to pass off the convulsions of infants as young as one as some kind of indicator of sexual readiness IS trying to normalise sadistic pedophilia. Quite odd he should be a Crowley fan. Friend of Nazi and lauded in the vapid MSM in a masquerade as some kind of forward thinking scientist.
hedy ago
You'll probably need to cite all that.
SheSaidDestroy ago
Consider that it is spread exponentially. If you understand that, then it's easier to understand how it has become so vast. Like as described in the article linked by the OP, children who are sexually abused get elements of the experience stuck in their minds. It is like it is seared into the mind permanently because it is so traumatic, similar to how people with PTSD will struggle with flashbacks/nightmares and the trauma just keeps getting repeated by the brain. It happened to me, as well. Even as a very young child, I found myself compulsively drawing elements of the abuse. People who don't get any form of help are at risk of becoming abusers themselves. People who don't get help and are then groomed to become abusers, do become abusers. People who get help are much less likely to become abusers. Luckily for me by the time I reached adulthood, I had therapy, and all that remained was the S&M factor to my sexuality, but nothing involving children in my mind. But I do know how it works. It is very difficult to be honest about it, because you don't want to people to suspect you. So most never speak about it, don't get help and then are at risk for becoming abusers. But if you understand this, and you imagine one predator abusing even a dozen children, boom that 12 more people (from 1) who are at risk. In some cases it was found that one abuser damaged hundreds of children. If these child victims never receive help and are groomed, than that is how the problem spreads so rapidly. That is how the problem has become so vast.
SpikyAube ago
It's also spread throughout the upper echelons of society all over the world because of secret societies - they all swear allegiance to one another above anything else and they get one another good jobs and promotions in powerful industries and over a few decades the top tiers of government, law, media, policing, entertainment etc, are filled with these depraved people. Those who aren't involved are either compromised and blackmailed, killed, turn a blind eye out of fear, or leave the industry out of disgust, perhaps try to get the word out but end up being labelled a conspiracy theorist and so have to make do with writing a blog or making Youtube videos, screaming 'behind you!' at the world from inside a soundproof room, while watching a dark and poisonous cloud billow up around the human race as they all blindly work and consume, work and consume, unknowingly feeding the fires this monstrous putrid apocalyptic cloud spews forth from.
My theory is that it started with the aristocracy and the monarchy way way back, and using their influence they would appoint similar-minded perverts and weirdos to positions close to them, and as time went on and the power of the monarchy faded and democracies sprung up, by then they had still managed to collect a fair number of sick fucks around the power centers. After a few hundred years of that, along with the effects of globalism, you can see how eventually you could end up with the majority of the people in power worldwide belonging to this vile sadistic secret organisation, or maybe not even organisation, maybe it's more of a mindset that ties various different organisations or societies together enough so that they'll generally look out for each other.
I hope all of us real human beings can now forget all the stuff we've been arguing about for centuries, like religion and race and land and beliefs and who does or doesn't deserve welfare and who does or doesn't deserve to emigrate or immigrate etc, and realise we're all on one side really, it only us and them, that is the only distinction that matters now.
chlrndrmz ago
One thing we must begin to understand is the spiritual aspect as to why these types of abuses against innocent children occur and why they are carried out by many of the abused themselves later in their lives. Regarding this, I find Ryan Loskarn's suicided note very revealing. He explained in the note how this abuse had become an obsession that controlled him. It was the first and last thing he thought about during the day. He knew it was wrong yet could not "fix himself". And THIS is exactly what happens to people like Alefantis, Podesta, Clinton, and all those involved in this pedophile cult. They get ritualistically abused as children by other members of this Satanic cult and little by little began to lose control of their humanity. If they lost control, who is controlling them? ...the obsession? I think not because Loskarn knew it was wrong and still could not stop it. In the extreme cases, I believe they are completely given over to evil and evil completely controls them. That's the reason why it is perfectly normal to rape, torture and murder little innocent children for them. That's why they joke about it. That's why they have "art" pieces to remind them and relive the experience. It becomes a celebration of evil for them. And the more innocent the victim, the more joy and powerful they feel. They stop being human and become the evil. It is something most us can't understand because we have not been taken over by evil.
Atlantean120 ago
To this I would add the religion of Satanism, which has gone on from the times of Babylon and Egypt. It may sound crazy, but these people sacrifice children to please the demons they worship. Do the proper research and you'll find it.
We are fighting a spiritual war, not only an earthly one.
NonexistentNihilist ago
If we were to take Ted Gunderson's word for it, it started around the 60s.
Kiwi_Slave ago
President Wilson was blackmailed into passing income tax, the Fed, and WWI - just by having an affair with a consenting adult woman. J Edgar Hoover was controllable just because he had sex with consenting adult men. Now those things are legal, and not considered beyond the pale. The blackmail control stakes had to be raised to pedophilia. If pedophilia ever becomes legal, then initiation will have to involve human sacrifice and cannibalism. Unfortunately, the Podestas (and who knows how many others) would be ok with that.