This Norway pedophile story is THE CENTER of something huge. In addition to NYT, ABC, WAPO, I now see the Guardian (UK) took it down. (pizzagate)

submitted ago by reasonedandinformed

The Norway story was initiated by the Associated Press, not "fake news" media or the Russians. We need to document, archive, and dig fast. The Norway sting appears to involve some kind "smoking gun." Otherwise, why this censorship of #REALNEWS by the the MSM? I ran across this in my search: https://desultoryheroics.com/2016/11/22/pizzagate-update-1122-does-norway-pedo-ring-bust-have-clinton-connections/

Interesting thoughts he wrote: "A verified account of some unknown-to-me Guardian/Huffington Post/Vice journalist by the name of @karengeier on Twitter begs WordPress to take down MY BLOG because “this is where a lot of them are getting information from” and “why have something even Reddit didn’t want”. CENSORSHIP ALERT, RESISTANCE IS FUTILE. Later at night, I began to see a call from journalists to SUE people like me. Folks, please ask yourselves this – if #PizzaGate were not real, would they have needed to delete 4chan threads and subreddits and now attempt to DELETE AND SUE A PERSONAL BLOG to hide something that is so obviously fake, in their opinion?"

My post about this MSM-censorship fact on Reddit was downvoted by some people! Who would downvote this explosive exposure of media censorship? I think we have found our Smoking Gun...it is the Norway bust, which was initiated by an FBI tip and involved at least one person "overseas," with many surmising that there were connections to the Clinton Foundation. Norway dropped its support of the Clinton Foundation by 87% at the time of this bust! This is consistent with some of the direction we have gotten from the FBI and where to look for things.

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matt_frohlich ago

ABC news regularly removes old news stories from their website. For instance, I did a random search for "japan tsunami" on their website. You will notice that numerous stories from early November are no longer available. The fact this story on Norwegian pedophilia is no longer present on their website is not evidence of a cover up.

The Norwegian story is an Associated Press story, so it is plausible that news outlets such as these only purchase the rights to post these stories for a fixed period of time. If that is the case, it would explain why all of these other news outlets removed the story at the same time.

lawfag123 ago

Interesting idea! Can you show us a sample article?

PS Ignore the downvotes we need to thoroughly look into everything. **

matt_frohlich ago

Certainly. Here are 6 examples from the search I did on "japan tsunami". Note that I picked "japan tsunami" simply because it is an apolitical issue that stands a low chance for censorship. If articles related to this are getting removed, then it is plausible that ABC news commonly removes articles after a certain period of time.

Japan Says Prime Minister Abe to Meet With Trump Next Week

Taxes? Trade? How Trump Could Affect Key Areas of Economy

The Latest: SKorea Media Say Trump Promises Military Support

Markets Right Now: S&P Backs US Rating After Trump Win

Japan's Nikkei 225 Stock Index Leaps 6 Percent, Yen Falls Day After Trump Win Sparks Sell-Off

Accidents, Bad Behavior Trigger Marine Pause to Regroup

lawfag123 ago

Thank you for that.It brings some much-needed perspective about other alternative explanations and possibilities. You only cited links to ABC news, but now it is plausible that the New York Times and the Washington Post may have similar story retention policies.

What do you think about how Mark Thompson covered up / downplayed the Jimmy Saville story at the BBC in the past, and now he's the CEO of the New York Times, which I think is the first paper to deem that the Italian cuisine story was fake?

Have an upvote, too.

matt_frohlich ago

What do you think about how Mark Thompson covered up / downplayed the Jimmy Saville story at the BBC in the past, and now he's the CEO of the New York Times, which I think is the first paper to deem that the Italian cuisine story was fake?

I don't know, I'm still agnostic about this whole pizzagate thing. I need to read more about what happened with Jimmy Saville before I can even have a perspective on that angle. This controversy does seem to have some parallels with the Franklin Scandal, which I am more familiar with.

To be honest, I have a really sick feeling about pizzagate. I do think pizzagate has uncovered some credible evidence that needs to be addressed in a responsible and objective manner and right now the MSM is failing miserably at that. On the other hand, I think pizzagate is infected with group think, which is equally dangerous.

Just imagine if you were James Alefantis and you actually were innocent. True, he has said some questionable things, but I think we're all guilty of that (I'll admit that I am). Can you imagine how horrible that would be to be falsely accused of operating a pedophile ring?

lawfag123 ago

Me too. I would actually be pretty terrified if I were him, whether I was guilty or innocent. When you have thousands and thousands of people from all over the world actually out to get you, what the hell do you do? I don't know the right answer.

Think about this: how many times have we seen a girl falsely accuse a guy of rape, and the guy is guilty until proven innocent in the public eye, and his reputation is completely fried forever. Eventually he is found innocent but he still completely screwed. It happens all the time. But, it doesn't mean it's right. Unfortunately, that's the way things are.

The law says that it's worse to convict an innocent man than it is to let a guilty man go free. That's what the presumption of innocence and proof beyond a reasonable doubt is all about. In a courtroom.

Here, the whole effort behind this ad hoc investigation is focused on convincing someone with some journalistic integrity to look into it. Or for law enforcement to get involved. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like either are happening. The first stories coming out and dismissing this as fake discussed none of the evidence. No investigating. And, he's been operating his pizza shop for a long time, and John Podesta has been in elite circles with Democrats and lobbyists for a long time. So when we see a bunch of strange evidence, and a long history of inaction, it looks like he's getting away with something.

Something that really stands out to me is how that attorney at the Department of Justice who works in the sex crimes or child trafficking division (if I remember correctly) Arun Rao appeared to be following the pizza owners instagram account. Or he liked a strange picture that the owner also liked. I don't have the image in front of me as I write this, but based on that, it looks like the wolves are guarding the hen house. Also, what is the deal with Laura Silsby, Hillary Clinton, and Haiti? Why did Monica Peterson*(?) die after going down to Haiti to investigate human and child trafficking earlier this year? I think child-abuse is fairly accepted in Saudi Arabia, and Saudi Arabia has close ties to the foundation and the US government.

It seems lost on the media that this thing is not limited to a humble pizzeria.

Finally, even though we risk destroying the reputation of an innocent man, the potential of putting a stop to child abuse and trafficking seems to justify it.