Since my call-to-arms comment in the previous sticky seemed to be almost 100% ignored, you get to read this first.
We need someone that will update and organize a sticky-worthy post of what is KNOWN. This person does not have to be the best at investigating new leads, they just need to be awesome at taking a lot of information from lots of places and CRUSHING THE LIFE OUT OF THAT INFORMATION to make a sticky-worthy post of nothing but diamonds of VALID information.
This sticky-award is not permanent. As soon as someone comes up with a better sticky-worthy submission, THAT one gets stickied.
USERS:
This is also a general call-to-arms to let you know a few things: (subject to change)
1) Banning shills will both not help, and will harm the mods and subverse here on Voat.
2) Banning shill leads is not something we're likely to ever be able to do - a flair is probably the best you're going to get.
3) Removal of posts is frowned upon and puts mods under the microscope. We WILL remove for removal-tier rules, but if there's even an ounce of uncertainty, the post will likely just get a flair.
4) WE NEED YOUR HELP to call out these shills. Comment where you find their bullshit and call it out, or find a shill you hate and follow that fucker around and 1000-years-of-pain that faggot.
5) WE NEED YOUR HELP with pinging us to rule violations or things to look out for. There are thousands of you guys, and 10? of us. We're not always active and not always able to pick up what you're putting down, which brings me to...
6) BE CLEAR IN YOUR SUBMISSIONS AND (info-heavy)COMMENTS. Links. Archives. Description of WHY THEY ARE RELEVANT.
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And now, the previous sticky
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Htaed ago
We're serious. Ready to kill for these children. Test me.
hedy ago
I think we all share the fury inside us over what is happening to these children. Some of us are actually victims or families of victims. But sacrificing the legitimacy of this cause for your own selfish need to "act out" (and yes, your enthusiastic statement of killing is a form of acting out) is unappreciated. Where are your priorities? The difficult but mature and more effective approach (think long-term) is to put the cause first, form a united front, present a professional, reasoned and bullet-proof argument out for the public. There are plenty of other online communities that are a better home for that kind of venting.
reasonedandinformed ago
You are right. I think we are being set up right before our eyes and that VOAT is now compromised. This new sticky, with the Call to Arms, hate, faggots, is not what this is about but suddenly became our public face. The concerns expressed where met with hostility by the poster and then someone saying that he is "ready to kill." This has not been the tone of this site, which is looking to uncover the truth and move to justice. We are upset and sickened by what we have found, but inciting violence or making vigilante statements plays into what they are clearly planning...a major false flag op. They are now planting "evidence" in VOAT that we are unhinged, bigoted, lunatics driven to violence by our conspiracy. They want to use this to shut us down as their last hope is if what we have found can be contained and not reach enough public awareness to tip the scales. The "public" voat pizzagate site, when not logged into it, shows 45 net votes for this ridiculous sticky. The one you see when logged into it shows 1 net vote since it was shouted down by the community. It is clear to me that we are compromised, and this is part of the setup.
hedy ago
The machine will attack truth from every angle. This is always the pattern, we've known this, we've lived it. We're getting really good at spotting it and posting about like you just did - this is very good. Please continue to keep an eye on the voting. Newcomers aren't going to understand that as well. You might even want to post a submission about it, keep it visible and allow others to comment.
But also keep in mind that a) PG originated from a unique community with a unique culture and it will take awhile for that to shake out for the greater good of the message---or at least I hope it becomes a more unified message. And b) there are a lot of people migrating here - and this will hopefully continue to expand. Transitional phases are very difficult and that is often what breaks weaker causes
Continue on, be diligent but be wary of paranoia. Suspicion and caution are healthy but it's much easier to act on fear than it is to act more deliberately with measured and reasoned thought. Just remember, we outnumber them and at the moment, the machine is chasing our investigation, not the other way around.
reasonedandinformed ago
I did. Please read my post (buried at 3 net votes) and vote it up. I have evidence that VOAT is compromised, PLEASE READ it and pass along as it is happening as I type.