Please be cautious of anything involving Gunderson.
He has a long history of controversy
ETA: Here's the link I originally posted but it is not the right link. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/04/23/the-strange-case-of-ted-gunderson/ A poster below got all freaked out because I deleted it. Now he's spinning because mindless paranoia is easier than critical thinking, but he'll wear himself out eventually. But the link I am looking for is an article written by a mother of one of the McMartin day care victims Jackie McGauley who shares her account of interactions w/ Gunderson. Please post if you have it.
Thanks but no, that's not the article I'm looking for. But that is interesting - wish I could read it. However, I know that there was a lot of downplaying The Finders discovery, trying to pass it off as "excentric, cultish, but not criminal. That is standard CIA b.s. from what I can gather (although admittedly I have not read the article you cite that seems to have intrigued you). Here is an excellent piece by Dave McGowan, a well-known author of several CIA controversies - includes provocative statements by detectives who were there in the "warehouse" and saw the evidence. See what you think:
https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Document:Finders_Keepers
I hate that these pieces keep fitting. Secretly I have hoped that this research would fall apart but here we are. I find it interesting that the oss are mentioned specifically here given the recent findings that Hitler escaped Germany and lived for another at least 15 years in south America. Making the nuremberg trials a complete farce dog and pony show.
Are you referencing Baer's "investigation"? I've seen a couple episodes. It is entertaining and well-done but of course, I assume CIA (incl. Bear) has known about Hitler's escape since it happened... much of the Nazi scientific community escaped to the US and started NASA and military development, yet the American public was and still is clueless. Some suggest the early CIA is an iterative version of OSS.
Yes it appears that his survival and escape was well understood at the time, though perhaps not the final destination initially. Testimony given during the trials details the events pretty clearly but was sealed from public view. Meaning heads of state would have been well aware. Really puts a new angle on the cia/oss linkages and the skull and bones society.
I am starting to consider that these events may be linked. Compromise the CIA from its foundation and you have an extralegal body with no oversight and unlimited budget. Controlling the temporary pawns of politics with 'games' for the elite & blackmail makes a lot of sense. The nazis that got out didn't sit around playing cards after I'm pretty sure of that
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hedy ago
Please be cautious of anything involving Gunderson.
He has a long history of controversy
ETA: Here's the link I originally posted but it is not the right link. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/04/23/the-strange-case-of-ted-gunderson/ A poster below got all freaked out because I deleted it. Now he's spinning because mindless paranoia is easier than critical thinking, but he'll wear himself out eventually. But the link I am looking for is an article written by a mother of one of the McMartin day care victims Jackie McGauley who shares her account of interactions w/ Gunderson. Please post if you have it.
disclosuretimes ago
Thanks for the heads up. As far as I know, his research is mostly from sources independent of him.
dindonufin ago
Nah this is bullshit. There is no "controversy". This guy is trying too hard to discredit Gunderson.
This is the article he cited, then so sneakily deleted after I called him out (read it, all of it): http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/04/23/the-strange-case-of-ted-gunderson/
LostandFound ago
This is the article you are looking for - http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/washingtonpost_historical/doc/139258083.html?FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:AI&type=historic&date=Feb+10%2C+1987&author=By+Victoria+Churchville+and+Marc+Fisher+Washington+Post+Staff+Writers&desc=D.C.+Police%3A+Finders+Odd%2C+Not+Criminal - cant share mine as its paywalled but hell thats one read in light of recent findings.
hedy ago
Thanks but no, that's not the article I'm looking for. But that is interesting - wish I could read it. However, I know that there was a lot of downplaying The Finders discovery, trying to pass it off as "excentric, cultish, but not criminal. That is standard CIA b.s. from what I can gather (although admittedly I have not read the article you cite that seems to have intrigued you). Here is an excellent piece by Dave McGowan, a well-known author of several CIA controversies - includes provocative statements by detectives who were there in the "warehouse" and saw the evidence. See what you think: https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Document:Finders_Keepers
LostandFound ago
I hate that these pieces keep fitting. Secretly I have hoped that this research would fall apart but here we are. I find it interesting that the oss are mentioned specifically here given the recent findings that Hitler escaped Germany and lived for another at least 15 years in south America. Making the nuremberg trials a complete farce dog and pony show.
hedy ago
Are you referencing Baer's "investigation"? I've seen a couple episodes. It is entertaining and well-done but of course, I assume CIA (incl. Bear) has known about Hitler's escape since it happened... much of the Nazi scientific community escaped to the US and started NASA and military development, yet the American public was and still is clueless. Some suggest the early CIA is an iterative version of OSS.
LostandFound ago
Yes it appears that his survival and escape was well understood at the time, though perhaps not the final destination initially. Testimony given during the trials details the events pretty clearly but was sealed from public view. Meaning heads of state would have been well aware. Really puts a new angle on the cia/oss linkages and the skull and bones society.
hedy ago
Fascinating, isn't it? And terrifying. Although, current events put that level of subterfuge and collusion to shame.
LostandFound ago
I am starting to consider that these events may be linked. Compromise the CIA from its foundation and you have an extralegal body with no oversight and unlimited budget. Controlling the temporary pawns of politics with 'games' for the elite & blackmail makes a lot of sense. The nazis that got out didn't sit around playing cards after I'm pretty sure of that