THIS POST IS TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS brought up in post
It was literally two users, (TWO USERS WHO I THINK HAD NO ILL WILL INTENDED) who brought Up concerns, Even thoughs others refuted them... But they remain the top comments in the thread, so it would be irresponsible to not address them.**
First and Foremost. THe source in question, was used to post DOZENS of different filings for hand full of companies Including but not limited too
NEW INFORMATION FOR DAVIDFLINTSTONE AND MR STONE INC.Title Here
DAVID FLINTSTONE ISLAND DISTILLERS here
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Various Companies FOr David Franjoine (I WILL GIVE EXAMPLES OF SAME COMPANY, WITH REVOKED, AND ACTIVE FILINGS)
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And Clinton foundation ( I WILL ALSO GIVE EXAMPLES OF SAME COMPANY WITH REVOKED AND ACTIVE FILINGS)
Out of the Dozens OF filings I link in my original Post j AND T PACKING COMPANY is the only one that can not Be verified at this time... NOT BECAUSE IT's FAKE. But because there is illegitimately no paper trail. The source used to insinuate that it is fake, HAS NO BEARING ON THE SOURCE I PROVIDED. IT IS TWO SEPERATE FILINGS, WHICH WE WILL GO OVER NOW.
The concerns of the two users were as followed.
" WE'RE BEING PLAYED !!! *
"Google 'Bizapedia and AgileCraft' to see what I mean. AgileCraft is a software company whose VP is LJ ALEFANTIS. I believe that they are planting false information. If we do not check our sources we will be discredited as well as waste lots of time. (Note the street address of this so called packing company.) AND ARCHIVE EVERYTHING"
This could end up being true, BUT THE REASONS TO SAY THIS, ARE NONSENSICAL, which I will address after I address the comment reply, To the above comment.
Another User Replied: "I'll be damned, you are right! This Bizapedia entry (archive) about the J & T Packing is inconsistent with the Arkansas registry. Here is the official record (archive):"
The first link provided in the above comment goes to this
The second Link Goes to this
- I was well aware of the second lInk, as I found it at the same time as the first... I DID NOT include it in my post, because I could not for see it being misconstrued or used as a reason to discredit the first link. I SHOULD HAVE INCLUDED IT ORIGINALLY, AND EXPLAINED THE SITUATION THEN.
In a message exchange I have with this user, He goes on to say ." A company can't be both live and defunct, and both a for-profit and non-profit company etc, so one of the registries has to be fake and contain "planted" information. "
First thing to address here is that is simply UNTRUE to say that one or the other Has to be planted. In fact, It makes zero sense.
ALL THAT MEANS, Is that there were two seperate Filings... The filing It self, IS NOT Indicative of the status of the ENTIRE COMPANY! IT is only addressing A SPECIFIC FILING, IN A SPECIFIC STATE, WITH SPECIFIC CIRCUMSTANCES.
We are going to prove this point with the Clinton foundation.
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HERE is a specific Filling for the CLINTON FOUNDATION, IN ARKANSAS that is DISSOLVED. here
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HERE IS a different Filing for clinto foundation, IN ARKANSAS that is ACTIVE
LETS LOOK AT A DIFFERENT EXAMPLE WITH PEOPLE INVOLVED FROM MY OTHER POST.
- HERE IS A FILING FOR MAINLINE CONTRACTING(DAVID FRANJOINE) INVOLUNTARILY REVOKED.Title Here
BASED ON WHAT THE USER CLAIMS, The above filing means that MAINLINE CONTRACTING, CAN NOT BE ACTIVE. This is a dangerous misinterpretation of the facts.
- Here is a filing for mainline contracting that is active, Title Here
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Based On what the user used as a foundation to discredit my information, We should assume that two of the above mentioned Filings, Are fabricated, or false. To assume that would be nonsensical.
They are not. They are four facts, with completely different circumstances and standings.
The link the user provided, Was to a DIFFERENT FIling of J & T packing company inc. With different circumstances surrounding it. By now means Does one or the other FABRICATED. ALL IT MEANS, IS THAT SPECIFIC FILING, WAS REVOKED. IT doesn't even provide A date as to when that was..
HE States that this link is the OFFICAL RECORD of J an T packing company... IT IS NOT IT IS ONLY AN OFFICAL RECORD OF THIS SPECIFIC FILING !
In fact on that same page it says," LLC Member information is now confidential per Act 865 of 2007". If I'm interpreting that correctly, Even if they had a different Filing, we wouldn;t know who is on it. The Filing in question on that page. Was most likely REVOKED, A WHILE AGO. BUT EITHER WAY! WE WOULD NOT SEE WHO ELSE IS LISTED!
To address the concerns of bizapedias Accuracy.
This is the website the user linked to here
- That is an OPEN FORUM, that anyone can anonymously contribute too. Based on what the user is insinuating... He is saying that the open forum, Should be taken more seriously, than the source I provided.... The source that IS NOT OPEN, and CAN NOT BE EASILY manipulated here.
WHO DO YOU THINK IS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE IN ACCURACY OF BIZAPEDIA? WHO IS IT SAYING THAT THEIR REPUTATION IS BEING HURT!?
ASK YOURSELF! IS ANYONE ELSE TRYING TO DISCREDIT THE VALIDITY OF CERTAIN INFORMATION, BASED ON NOTHING BUT RANDOM PEOPLE AND THEIR UNFOUNDED OPINIONS.... DOES THIS SOUND LIKE ANYTHING ELSE WE"VE BEEN DEALING WITH!? ARE WE UNDER THE IMPRESSION THIS IS A NEW TACTIC?
Based On what the user is insinuating, HE'S SAYING THAT THE FILING I PROVIDED, WAS FABRICATED AS A RED HERRING, TO DIVERT ATTENTION FROM RELEVANT INFORMATION
Ok, Then what does that have to do with the link reviewing the site it self?
- He' claiming that we shouldn't pay attention to the Filing, Because it was planted their by CTR...
- But then he's also saying that The information may just be wrong....
This is an insane fucking notion and it scares me that it made it to the top of the thread.
I never Once claimed there doesn't need to be questions answered about the information I found.... BUt the only people saying that it is straight Up useless... Say that because of their lack of understanding around business filings, Which leads them to believe that one of the sources HAS TO BE fabricated...
And his other reason is that The source has Bad reviews according to this open forum website...
Both of his reasoning CONTRADICT the other.
In my other post, I link to DOZENS of Buisness filings, Only involving a handful of companies, SOME ARE OLD, SOME ARE REVOKED. SOME ARE RECENT, AND GOOD STANDING, SOME HAVE BEEN DISSOLVED. A SINGLE BUSINESS FILING IS NOT INDICATIVE OF THE STATUS OF COMPANY AS A WHOLE.
GO TO https://www.bizapedia.com/ny/william-j-clinton-foundation.html Click companies In the right hand corner, Search
PLease Do not dimiss information, because of a single person in the comments, Who can not give a valid reason to substantiate their claims.
I hope this answers any concerns.
There most certainly needs to be verification of these facts. BUT YOU MUST PROVIDE A REASON THEY ARE EITHER FABRICATED OR WRONG. THE TOP VOTED COMMENT, DID NOT FUCKING DO THAT.
FuckUredditFuckuSpez ago
But here is another instance IN which . GOV is different from bizapedia... But I found 2 additional sources that verify bizapideas information. On the Opencorporate source, It shows filing 100152168 as WJC foundation... But If you click the link provided, It re directs you to a completely different company, with a different Filing number.
If that doesn't prove the point that MY sources, WERE NOT THE SOURCES FALSIFYING INFORMATION, and that it was more likely that the STATe Of ARKANSAS SITE WAS. Ya know, becasue only one source benefits from lying... and its the presidents home state source.
Filing resistration number 100152168 WJC FOUNDATION
Filing resistration number 100152168 WJC Foundation
Filing resistration number 100152168 WJC foundation
But if you click the sos.gov link provided by The third soure (Opencorporate) It takes you this THF, INC. filing number 100152182 http://www.sos.arkansas.gov/corps/search_corps.php?DETAIL=152947&corp_type_id=&corp_name=&agent_search=&agent_city=&agent_state=&filing_number=100152168&cmd=
So IF you search filing number 100152168 on opencorporate It takes you to the WJC foundation... But if you click the Arkanasas GOV link, provided by the WJC number 100152168 It takes you to file 100152182 Which is a completely different company "THF INC"
So I Don't know what's going on with arkansas.gov. But all the information via bizapedia, Can be verified on opencorporate, EXCEPT for sketch companies filed in Arkansas. Soooooo
InfiltratingAuditing ago
I think your lead is super solid and not getting the attention it deserves. There were a few degrees of separation that I thought needed shoring up on my first read, but I'm still working on tying together what you have, here.
You assert that J&T Packing has a board of directors that ties the Clinton and Giustra to Dave Flintstone who is tied to the Hawaiian property. Additionally, these people are tied to the burning of planes. Is that correct?
FuckUredditFuckuSpez ago
Hold... This post specifically, Is addressing the validiity of my information in my other post. I was accused Of not having accurate sources, and that I had stumbled across CTR fabrication. I defened my information earlier, but They still persisted with accuastions, with no justification. This new up date contains irrefutable evidence, of the fact that I provided ACCURATE INFORMATION. This is simply addressing the accusations.
But Yes, after the shit I just found, I can confidently assert that J and T packing has board of directors that tie clinton and everyone you mentioned EXCEPT, DAVID FLINTSTONE. THe david FLintstone is an entire different angle, and is also in addressed In my last post.
Right now I'm wasting time having to defend my original information, because a couple fuck heads, got there incorrect comments voted to the top.
InfiltratingAuditing ago
I will reread your last post. Dave Flintstone might be an alias for a sex offender on Molokai.
You are still trying to connect Kaiser to Flintsone, which would complete the loop?
r3dtr1x ago
It is. If the .gov records aren't there, it's fake - and you are spinning your wheels, and wasting all of our time. You wanna find SEC filings? Lol good luck! ( they don't exist)
FuckUredditFuckuSpez ago
I found 2 additional sources that verify bizapideas information. On the Opencorporate source, It shows filing 100152168 as WJC foundation... But If you click the link provided, It re directs you to a completely different company, with a different Filing number.
If that doesn't prove the point that MY sources, WERE NOT THE SOURCES FALSIFYING INFORMATION, and that it was more likely that the STATe Of ARKANSAS SITE WAS. Ya know, becasue only one source benefits from lying... and its the presidents home state source.
Filing resistration number 100152168 WJC FOUNDATION
Filing resistration number 100152168 WJC Foundation
Filing resistration number 100152168 WJC foundation
But if you click the sos.gov link provided by The third soure (Opencorporate) It takes you this THF, INC. filing number 100152182 http://www.sos.arkansas.gov/corps/search_corps.php?DETAIL=152947&corp_type_id=&corp_name=&agent_search=&agent_city=&agent_state=&filing_number=100152168&cmd=
So IF you search filing number 100152168 on opencorporate It takes you to the WJC foundation... But if you click the Arkanasas GOV link, provided by the WJC number 100152168 It takes you to file 100152182 Which is a completely different company "THF INC"
So I Don't know what's going on with arkansas.gov. But all the information via bizapedia, Can be verified on opencorporate, EXCEPT for sketch companies filed in Arkansas. Soooooo
FuckUredditFuckuSpez ago
The whole fucking point, IS THAT IS NOT A PUBLIC COMPANY. HOW FUCKING RETARDED ARE YOU! ITS A COMPANY THAT IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE FOUND.
r3dtr1x ago
Whatever you say, boss ;)
Try using Bizapedia in court as "evidence" see how far that gets you.
Do you even know why SOS registrations are required?
thisistotallynotme ago
Someone's clearly never filed an affidavit in their life. Attach the link as an exhibit, and wait paitiently for the opposing counsel to spend a week trying to prove it wrong, and failing.
Source: I file at least 2 affidavits a week in civil and criminal matters.
FuckUredditFuckuSpez ago
Nah. Not whatever I say. I've put at the front of both of my posts. So users know to check out your history.
PodeezyCheezy ago
Unless there is a record of it on the Arkansas SOS official .gov website, it's not real. It really is as simple as that. CTR set you up and you made these really long-ass posts about fake shit, just like they wanted you to.
FuckUredditFuckuSpez ago
OK Dude. So someone is going to come in here, and say that the info I submitted, Is false, Becasue the SOS,GOV site said something different...
Am Still confused by what is what. But here is another instance IN which . GOV is different from bizapedia... But I found 2 additional sources that verify bizapideas information. On the Opencorporate source, It shows filing 100152168 as WJC foundation... But If you click the link provided, It re directs you to a completely different company, with a different Filing number.
If that doesn't prove the point that MY sources, WERE NOT THE SOURCES FALSIFYING INFORMATION, and that it was more likely that the STATe Of ARKANSAS SITE WAS. Ya know, becasue only one source benefits from lying... and its the presidents home state source.
Filing resistration number 100152168 WJC FOUNDATION
Filing resistration number 100152168 WJC Foundation
Filing resistration number 100152168 WJC foundation
But if you click the sos.gov link provided by The third soure (Opencorporate) It takes you this THF, INC. filing number 100152182 http://www.sos.arkansas.gov/corps/search_corps.php?DETAIL=152947&corp_type_id=&corp_name=&agent_search=&agent_city=&agent_state=&filing_number=100152168&cmd=
So IF you search filing number 100152168 on opencorporate It takes you to the WJC foundation... But if you click the Arkanasas GOV link, provided by the WJC number 100152168 It takes you to file 100152182 Which is a completely different company "THF INC"
So I Don't know what's going on with arkansas.gov. But all the information via bizapedia, Can be verified on opencorporate, EXCEPT for sketch companies filed in Arkansas. Soooooo
FuckUredditFuckuSpez ago
"CTR Made this random Fake listing, For a random company... But didn't do anything else. they just did this."
Why did they do that You fuck? So that IT WOULD WASTE MY TIME!? I'm the only person who found this, YOu stupid fuck.
IF it was as you say, and if it was fake, I wouldn't be able to make a post explaining its not.
IF it was fake, and your reasons for it being fake were true, It would make sense. It would also stop people from going further...SINCE THIS" FABRICATED" Info, was found the exact same time as the info provided by the state of arkansas, The state you high in super high regard... FOr some retarded fucking reason.
You're excuse is that There isn't government corruption going on, And this company that IS MEANT TO BE HIDDEN, doesn't show up on the state government website.... The state THat bill clinton was the governor of?
You're the most pathetic fuck here. At least the people who raised concerns, addressed certain reasons. Reasons that I never thought to clarify in the original Post. But now have.
You're not fucking saying anything. I just made a post explaining how you're retarded for thinking that way.
You just made a comment saying "Nu uh".
Go fuck yourself retard. IF this was really nothing, You wouldn't comment like you just did.
The source and facts in question, Is not new. It was there before PIzzagate.
You're either a troll, retard, or scared.
r3dtr1x ago
What facts? That you found a bizapedia page that doesn't match the SOS filing? You are right. That's exactly what you have. A Bizapedia entry for something that you think is supposed to be secret. Well, it's not very secret if it's on Bizapedia, is it?
Your lack of objectivity is showing.
I bet you are sure that Comet Ping Pong has a basement too, right?
FuckUredditFuckuSpez ago
THANK YOU. I LOVE YOU. You just validated you're a shill. I don't know why you did that. but thank you.
r3dtr1x ago
Gosh if you say I'm a shill then I must be a shill! If a business was supposed to be secret, why would their shit be on Bizapedia? And furthermore - do you even know how to contact Bizapedia to "confirm" this super secret info that you've found? They are riddled with errors.
Look at all the complaints. Here's just one of many:
"Bizapedia's Contact Info.Here it is.
So some one in another state was using my Registered Trade Name, when I asked Bizapedia to remover the company from their website, they refused and instead Highlighted this other company, by updating the file with LAST UPDATE - The date I asked them to remove it. I looked on this board and I see many complaints of people trying to contact them - So here's their contact information (I found from BBB). If they can share your information, the we can share theirs.
Andrea McCall, Bizapedia, LLC, 3225 McLeod Drive #100, Las Vegas, NV 89121.
Good Luck All - take action!"
Here - I went the extra step to find the Las Vegas BBB on them. LOL. You can't look at this and actually think this site is credible.
https://www.bbb.org/southern-nevada/business-reviews/publishers-directory-and-guide/bizapedia-in-las-vegas-nv-90023970/reviews-and-complaints
FuckUredditFuckuSpez ago
Oh, and even forgetting about my entire post. You still talk and act like a shill based on your comments to others, and your post's don;t help defend you either.
FuckUredditFuckuSpez ago
I didn't just randomly decide to call you a shill... It was based on every comment you make, and your post history. You realize once I know you're a shill, I don't have to read your comments? I'll give them a sentence or two to say something worth while, But after that it's a no go. Sorry :/
r3dtr1x ago
Bizapedia has a procedure to correct errors on their website. I bet you didn't see that, or don't care. Here, I'll paste the options for you.
Which one of these would apply to your proposed scenario?
CONTACT US Select Reason Please select the reason you are contacting us from the list below. My company's information has become outdated and I would like it refreshed to match the official public record of the governing agency that has published my company's information. (e.g., The governing agency in Nevada is the Nevada Secretary of State) I would like to hide my company's private information from the general public. (i.e., Private information is limited to names of people and addresses) My company has been dissolved, closed, converted, or is simply no longer active and I would like it removed from your website. (We will attempt to verify that the applicable governing agency no longer makes your company's information available. If we find that not to be the case, then alternatively you can request us to hide private information as defined above, but the company profile will remain on our site.) I am a law enforcement officer, a peace officer, a member of the military, a district attorney, a public defender, or a federal, state, or administrative law judge, and would like to submit a declaration to have my company's information removed from your website. I would like to hide my trademark's private information from the general public. (i.e., Private information is limited to names of people and addresses) I would like to have my personal phone book listing removed from your website. Other Reason
Kayzza ago
What's with your fucking caps lock man
FuckUredditFuckuSpez ago
Dude. I know. It's out of control. And I have no excuse.... I Picked Up the habit while making post that were long, In attempt to make important information easy to follow.
Unfortunate It has carried over into my comments. It's bad. I need to stop.
Stayvigilant ago
Yes please stop you're really throwing up my red flags lately
FuckUredditFuckuSpez ago
FUCK OFF CUNT. NO ONES TALKING TO YOU.
You need to reevaluate what constitutes a red flag.
My Caps are a result of having to defend nonsensical points and allegations, and dealing with people like you who insert themselves into a conversation for no reason other than piling on. Over a non issue.
The user before you, Brought up a vaild point, that I do agree with, Except he wasn't a dick about it.
And besides, My caps are the least of the problems you should be worrying about.