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blackguard19 ago

As someone who studies the other false flags (I prefer to call them hoaxes since they're mostly completely staged) of the Obama administration, I can tell you most of them have giveaways that are just as obvious as this one but people don't question them. Omar Mateen had an imdb page as well, for just one example. That was a complete hoax. The sad fact is most people don't question them because they don't view the media critically enough. They are carried out in such a sloppy way it almost seems intentional, as though to flaunt the power of the perpetrators to deceive the population, as well as causing argument between the people who are able to easily see through them and the people who call us retards for doing so.

party1981 ago

Can you tell me more about these hoaxes? I keep hearing that Omar Mateen was a hoax, but I never took it seriously because it made no sense that Democrats would want a Muslim terrorist to mow down gay men?

YouaremeandIamyou ago

he was an actor, and the whole hing was fake all over. one of the most slip ups, in any single case. youtube has some great videos on it.

blackguard19 ago

I hear that almost every time I bring up any of these hoaxes that had Muslim culprits and it is a fair objection. I used to think the same thing, even after I figured out Sandy Hook was a completely fake event where no one actually died I couldn't believe they would do the same thing with Muslims because it contradicts their pro-Islam, pro-immigration, pro-refugee, pro-multiculturalism narrative. However when I saw how obviously fabricated and staged the Boston Marathon Bombing was, I had no choice but to rethink this presupposition.

Here's how I explain it: yes it goes against their Muslim narrative, but if you've read 1984 you are familiar with the concept of doublethink, whereby you are expected to hold two conflicting ideas in your head at the same time. In this case, you must think that Muslims are our friends/Islam is a religion of peace, and also that there are scary ISIS agents who could kill you at any moment. This makes people confused, scared, and more amenable to the police state.

It also justifies Obama's increased military action in the middle east - remember that when the Soviet Union collapsed in the early 1990s America needed a new "bad guy" to blame everything on and it became radical Islamic terror.

Also, no matter who does the shooting it still serves as a pretext for increased gun control and surveillance.

Finally, and in my opinion most importantly, if every fake shooting were an Adam Lanza, Jared Loughner, Dylann Roof, or James Holmes, aka a freaky psycho white kid, no one would believe it. Most people don't bother questioning the authenticity of any event where a Muslim is blamed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yrzMhg6yYM

The Pulse discussion starts at about 21 minutes in, before that he talks about Sandy Hook and Boston Marathon, and there is a ton of great stuff on Youtube if you want to look around or I can give you more material.

Anti-Stupid ago

Are you implying the Aurora CO shooting in the theater was fake?

blackguard19 ago

I'm not sure about that one. There are definitely many weird details about it that don't make sense. Some people think he was mind-controlled, others think he was drugged and framed/arrested at the scene after other people did the shooting. Haven't studied it enough to take a strong opinion. There do seem to be crisis actors involved. I know it didn't happen as reported so in that sense it is fake. Considering most of the other ones are completely staged it's safe to say this one probably was too.

http://www.henrymakow.com/upload_images/holmes-or-not.jpeg

http://s008.radikal.ru/i306/1506/60/9b918d662cba.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eW9w8szNlys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJPmDHUxyZU

Anti-Stupid ago

I attended funerals of friends lost from that day.

blackguard19 ago

Sure you did.

Anti-Stupid ago

You don't have to believe me.

blackguard19 ago

Yeah, I don't. Who were they? All names of all victims are public information so it's no big deal to tell me their names and how you know them.

Also, why do the same characters appear in multiple mass shootings? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5UTfPAMbsw

Why does no one cry actual tears?

How did an unemployed college student afford $20,000 worth of gear?

Anti-Stupid ago

Alex Sullivan namely. I never said it wasnt fishy, but people did die.

blackguard19 ago

Ah yes, died on his 27th birthday, how emotional.

And his "dad" couldn't even manage to fake tears, in fact no one could. https://i.sli.mg/lv9bWj.png

Then he ran for Senate to work for more gun control! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rf66Pj037Qw

How perfect.

What kind of 27 year old talks like this? Notice how they threw in the Batman Twitter avatar to go with the Batman theme.

http://proxy.topixcdn.com/ipicimg/S9U5V77MVGPUGM4L-v1-fram810x410x810x410xxxx

Anti-Stupid ago

Whatever dude. Live in your false reality then.

party1981 ago

Please give me lots of new material.

I am a 35 year old attorney who never believed a conspiracy theory before in my life. I am 96% sure that some variation of pizzagate is real. I was convinced when I was reading FBIanon before the Wall St. Journal announced the massive CF investigation. He predicted so much. Then I was doubly convinced by the four colobomas. My estimated odds of the federal government being filled with psychopaths went from 4% to 80% overnight. The only way I can try to make sense of it is through the concept of psychopaths filtering up into power. I read the book Lifting the Veil and it really made a lot of sense. Now, not only am I sure that some variation of pizzagate is real, but I no longer have confidence that other conspiracy theories are false. JFK, satanic rituals, breakaway civilizations, 9/11, nothing is off limits.

It's a total mindfuck, and people don't even seem to realize what is about to happen. I don't think this story can be contained.

stickittotheman ago

Nice to have an attorney on board and i hope more sign up here and join the fight. You are correct that psychopaths get in positions of power (in many corporations right now) and then hire like minded psychopaths beneath them. It doesnt take long before the whole organization is contaminated. Between that and blackmail is how evil takes over. Welcome to the matrix friend and you are correct, nothing is off limits, almost every historical event has been a false flag or faked event even including pearl harbor, the moon landing, the sinking of the titanic, yes it really sunk but it was sunk by the bankers to kill those on board who were planning to stop the FED from being formed. NASA is full of shit and loaded with satanic freemasons. I have been studying this stuff for 20 years now and have known about their satanic mind control programs for a long time. Just remember if they are psycho enough to kill kids they are also killing us every day with GMO poisons, fluoride, chemtrails, vaccines which are pure evil. The latest thing i started studying which even i said id never touch is flat earth... well i can tell you, i laughed at it like everyone does but after you look into it enough i am now convinced this is the biggest coverup ever, even bigger than pizzagate. If you want to go there i highly recommend Eric Dubays vids on youtube as he has some great videos explaining all the tons of evidence, meanwhile NASA has zero proof, just they told you so. Just like James Alefantis, told you im not doing anything, case closed!

blackguard19 ago

Ok as I was saying, Aurora definitely has a lot of fishy business involved with it, but it's a little weird and some people think there was an actual shooting that took place even if James Holmes wasn't the real shooter. Even some of the witnesses reported smoke grenades being tossed from multiple directions. It obviously doesn't make sense that a broke college student could afford expensive body armor and multiple weapons and a ton of ammunition like that, either, and all of his appearances have been bizarre. Since he was a graduate psychology student, some people suspect that mind control might have been involved. Anyway, I'm not as well-researched on that particular event so I'll skip by it to a few months later, when Sandy Hook happened in December of 2012. That was the big one. Here's an entire book that's free to read online (it got banned from Amazon). It's over 400 pages, has multiple authors, photos, and all the evidence you need to know for a 100% certainty that it was a staged event revolving around a FEMA drill in which no one died.

So basically every major terror attack since then has been a farcical staged production. The truth is there's just not that much domestic terrorism in the United States but it is beneficial to TPTB for us citizens to think there is. All the shootings and bombings, etc., during Obama's second term have shared these similarities - obvious crisis actors, lack of bona fide medical personnel, and they all seem to coincide with some sort of drill. Another example from Boston.

Sounds like a cop-out, but there's really so much material that I can't even begin to spam it all but would be glad to talk about any specific event or conspiracy.

party1981 ago

Thanks I'm checking out that book now!

h2d ago

Hey man if you're interested in watching an amazing video (the video that REALLY blew the roof off of the whole Sandy Hook fraud and without a doubt will convince anyone, even the most ardent anti-conspiracy-theorist mainstream media-believing middle American housewife, if viewed objectively -- because the evidence in support of the hoax aspect is so overwhelmingly strong it can't be denied) is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcZIRi_NkJI (this same guy who I have been sub'd to on YouTube for years also correctly predicted this pizzagate false flag attack over 10 days ago on his channel, he's got a lot of great videos and I can assure you it's nothing that's "out there" or based on some numerology or random confirmation-bias type "evidence" he only uses actual facts and sourced material)

Mind you, that video is the 'full length' hour long one - if you only have 3 minutes, watch this video as he made it specifically to show people that're skeptical : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPdFoEE4_A0&index=11&list=PLj87TVrPmbMJbwGS0MEbFV5xEE3IV2fJe

party1981 ago

I watched the 1 hour video. Completely convinced me and my girlfriend.

party1981 ago

I'm watching now. I skimmed through half of the book and was not that persuaded. Doesn't mean that it's a hoax, or not a hoax, just not very convincing. I will watch this video.

I read about pizzagate all day long. Every day there's something new.

party1981 ago

That three minute video was pretty good. I'm going to keep watching.

blackguard19 ago

9/11 is a total mindfuck but as far as conspiracy theories go it's a bit of a black diamond trail, and you should warm up with a few bunny slopes first.

At the beginning of Obama's second term, this legislation was passed, hidden away in the 2013 National Defense Authorization Act, and overturned the 1948 U.S. Information and Educational Exchange Act (aka the Smith-Mundt Act), which had hitherto precluded the U.S. government from propagandizing its own citizens as though they were an enemy nation. In other words, it's now legal for the media to present fake stories as though they were true, including terror attacks. You're probably already aware of Project Mockingbird and the CIA ties of major media figures such as Anderson Cooper and Wolf Blitzer. Interestingly enough, this legislation (HR 5736) was drafted several months before Sandy Hook and the 2013 NDAA which contained it was passed several months after.

So in my opinion it all started with the Aurora shooting and Sandy Hook. Shit, I have to go for a second, I'm at work so I have to submit this comment or it might get deleted. I'll continue in a minute.

party1981 ago

Thanks. Please keep in touch. I googled on hoaxes and crisis actors and could not find anything that persuasive, but I have an open mind and I want to see what you recommend.

I trust FBIanon and he said that a mass shooting was CIA. I didn't know if that was part of his 10% disinformation.