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pizzagateinvestigate ago

Continuing...

If Welch had the handgun inside the restaurant as the "carrying a pistol without a license" charge indicates, and Welch also had a shotgun and a rifle inside the restaurant, as indicated by the other charges as well as Silmi's witness report and Hoshiko's second hand witness report, then what gun could have possibly been in the car?

Why didn't Silmi report seeing any rifle? How did Welch carry both a shotgun and a rifle into the restaurant, did he have one strapped onto his back? Why didn't anyone report seeing him carrying two guns? If either the shotgun or the rifle were left in the car then why did different witnesses apparently see both at various times?

The media reports have been repeatedly asserting that Welch stormed into the restaurant with an "assault rifle" yet the most outspoken and clear witness who was there, who was also allegedly one of the last to leave, never reported seeing any rifle, and confirmed multiple times that the suspect had a shotgun. Did Welch have the AR-15 shoved up his ass?

The very objective press release published on the DC government website from Metropolitan PD made sure to round it off with,

During a post arrest interview this evening, the suspect revealed that he came to the establishment to self-investigate "Pizza Gate" (a fictitious online conspiracy theory).

Thank you for giving us your esteemed opinion about the veracity of an online conspiracy theory, next time just fill out the fucking paperwork. To their credit though, they did respond with almost unbelievable speed.

The aforementioned Washingtonian piece says that Little Red Fox owner Matt Carr "saw at least seven to nine police cars swarm the restaurant" within two to three minutes. Seven to nine police cars within a few minutes?

CPP was reportedly heightening its security during music shows, and police were certainly aware of the torrential downpour of death threats alleged by Alefantis, but still seven to nine or more police vehicles within minutes is quite extraordinary. It's almost as if they were somehow tipped off beforehand.

Hilariously, various DC media personnel have been publishing tweets indiscriminately ridiculing the undifferentiated mass of "conspiracy theorists," whom they refer to as "mouth-breathers," because some might suspect that Welch and others were part of a "false flag op."

Here's a thought: maybe do your fucking jobs and learn how to write a fucking article. This would typically include such ground breaking methods as asking witnesses, "what did you see?"

Also helpful would be attempting to stitch together the evidence into a clear coherent picture so people can actually understand what the fuck happened. If there are seeming contradictions then attempting to gain further clarification with witnesses and police would probably go a long way in minimizing any confusion.

What the media does not understand, or refuses to understand, is that not every "conspiracy theorist" will be a proponent of a particular theory no matter what. Given ample evidence they might adjust their position. Many conspiracy theorists are critical thinkers who have simply committed the deadly sin of not blindly accepting incoherent contradictions even when those contradictions come from a place of supposed authority or from those operating under the pretense of "investigative journalism" (puke).

The mainstream media, until its dying breath (and it is dying), will maintain at all costs that us "mouth-breathers" have no justification for being suspicious towards them. Yet it's obvious that a large portion of that suspicion is driven by their embarrassing levels of incompetence and all out refusal to investigate those whom they rub elbows with, lest they lose their precious press access and invites to cocktail parties.

Rather than accept any responsibility it's simply easier to act like buffoons and point the finger at their supposed political enemies (even though not everyone interested in pizzagate, such as myself, is a Donald Trump supporter).

TL;DR; All the reports are still in conflict and the mainstream media is filled with 2nd graders

pizzagateinvestigate ago

Here is the timeline:

December 4th, 2016

Sharif Silmi, Esq @bayreef 3:04 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 @NBCNews @NPR guy with shotgun entered @cometpingpong 3pm - link - archive

Alan Henney @alanhenney 3:04 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 MAN W/RIFLE AT COMET PIZZA, Connecticut Av and Nebraska Av NW-DC. MPD surrounding restaurant and may be calling SWAT-ERT. - link - archive

Sharif Silmi, Esq @bayreef 3:06 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 @asmamk guy just walked in comet Pizza with shotgun - link - archive

Kent Hoshiko @Kenttouch_this 3:11 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 A man just walked into the Comet restaurant in DC with a rifle. No shots heard. I'm ok, hiding in the red fox coffeeshop next door. - link - archive

Kent Hoshiko @Kenttouch_this 3:14 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Lots of police on location but nobody's talked to us yet. Doors are locked. Haven't heard anything. - link - archive

Alan Henney @alanhenney 3:17 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 u/d MAN w/RIFLE IN COMET PINGPONG, 5037 Ct Av- Man rpt'd inside rear room of Comet. SWAT-ERT en rte to cmd post at firehouse. Roads CLOSED. - link - archive

Kent Hoshiko @Kenttouch_this 3:18 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Police are here and surrounded the building. Employees said he walked past everyone towards the back of the restaurant. - link - archive

Kent Hoshiko @Kenttouch_this 3:18 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Employees and customers ran out, and several came in to the Red Fox with me. Man was carrying what appeared to be an assault rifle. - link - archive

Report: Man with Rifle at Comet Ping Pong in Chevy Chase Update: Man surrendered to police. Posted: 3:21 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Archived: 5:29:15 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 "Alan Henney reports just after 3pm" - link - archive

DC Police Department @DCPoliceDept 3:23 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Police Activity: Connecticut Ave between Fessenden St and Nebraska St NW Closed in both Directions. Please seek alternate route. // 10735 - link - archive

Kent Hoshiko @Kenttouch_this 3:24 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 A man just exited comet with his hands on his head. Comet employees with me say it's the guy that entered with a gun. - link - archive

Sharif Silmi, Esq @bayreef 3:24 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Suspect at #cometpizza apprehended great job @DCPoliceDept (note: Sharif is the one who took the picture of the man alleged to be Edgar Maddison Welch surrendering) - link - archive

Kent Hoshiko @Kenttouch_this 3:27 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 He's been handcuffed and put in a squad car. Police haven't come to escort us out or anything yet though (again, im next door from comet) - link - archive

Alan Henney @alanhenney 3:28 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 u/d COMET PINGPONG, 5037 Ct Av NW-DC. A man has surrendered to PD. SWAT-ERT and bomb techs will sweep Comet and man's car parked outside. - link - archive

jeffgep @jeffgep 3:30 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Major police presence near #comet pizza in #Northwest DC near the corner of Connecticut and Nebraska. Man arrested. - link - archive

Mike Reinitz @reintzgebot @PoPville police with guns drawn outside Comet 3:30 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 @PoPville police with guns drawn outside Comet - link - archive

Kent Hoshiko @Kenttouch_this 3:31 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Rebekah and i were literally about to walk into the restaurant when I remembered i was parked illegally. Moved the car, and in that time... - link - archive

PoPville @PoPville 3:33 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Comet Ping Pong Man with Rifle update from @alanhenney: "A man has surrendered" - link - archive

Ryan Snow @ryanpsnow 3:35 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 from Washington, DC The crazy conspiracy theorists behind #pizzagate are now armed and my n'hood is barracaded. #comet @realDonaldTrump - link - archive

jeffgep @jeffgep 3:37 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 police guns drawn not sure what's coming on ... @fox5dc - link - archive

Kent Hoshiko @Kenttouch_this 3:37 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Comet employees with me say that all their employees are accounted for. But the place was also filled with customers. - link - archive

Kirby @KirbyReitz 3:39 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Was walking to CVS when people came out of Comet Pizza. Employee mentioned possible gunmen. Serious police presence within minutes. - link - archive

Stephanie Ramirez @RamirezReports 3:41 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 @DCPoliceDept spokesperson says police received report of a man w/gun at the Comet pizzeria on CT Ave. @wusa9 - link - archive

Stephanie Ramirez @RamirezReports 3:44 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Told @DCPoliceDept supervisors are searching but so far no evidence of gunman discovered. Heavy investigation underway @wusa9 #pizzagate - link - archive

Cameron @dasTurbo 3:47 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Down the street from #Comet - link - archive

Sharif Silmi, Esq @bayreef 3:47 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Police still clearing the block #cometpizza - link - archive

Kent Hoshiko @Kenttouch_this 3:48 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 SWAT now entering Comet. Presumably clearing it. Again: a man has already been arrested. - link - archive

Stephanie Ramirez @RamirezReports 3:49 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Still a very active scene. Watching SWAT team & chopper. Officers focused in area of CT and Nebraska @wusa9 - link - archive

DC Police Department @DCPoliceDept 3:50 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Update: suspect armed w/ assault rifle taken into custody. - link - archive

UPDATES: Man With Rifle Arrested at Comet Pizza in DC; Restaurant Target of PizzaGate Theories Posted: 3:52 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Archived: 4:25:14 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 - link - archive

Stephanie Ramirez @RamirezReports 3:53 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 @DCPoliceDept tweeted a suspect armed w/ assault rifle taken into custody @wusa9 #pizzagate - link - archive

jeffgep @jeffgep 3:55 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 I was ordered back inside here's my view from my neighbors window @fox5dc - link - archive

Suspect armed with assault rifle enters Comet Ping Pong, is apprehended Updated: 3:57 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016, Posted: 3:23 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Archived: 4:06:28 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 - link - archive

DC Police Department @DCPoliceDept Archived: 3:57:23 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 - link - archive

Franak Viačorka @franakviacorka 3:59 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 There's a gunman at #comet pizza restaurant now in #DC - link - archive