pizzagateinvestigate ago

Ahh good call. I switched it around, hopefully that fixes it. Thanks.

pizzagateinvestigate ago

Which ones are you referring to? Thanks.

MeatballPizza ago

Excellent analysis. The guys are laughing about grabbing their beer and pizza, but it was a "shooter" situation? That didn't add up. Notice in Jimmy Comet's carefully worded statement he never mentions SHOTS FIRED and treats it more as a PR opportunity with a pre-scripted message.

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pizzagateinvestigate ago

Continuing...

If Welch had the handgun inside the restaurant as the "carrying a pistol without a license" charge indicates, and Welch also had a shotgun and a rifle inside the restaurant, as indicated by the other charges as well as Silmi's witness report and Hoshiko's second hand witness report, then what gun could have possibly been in the car?

Why didn't Silmi report seeing any rifle? How did Welch carry both a shotgun and a rifle into the restaurant, did he have one strapped onto his back? Why didn't anyone report seeing him carrying two guns? If either the shotgun or the rifle were left in the car then why did different witnesses apparently see both at various times?

The media reports have been repeatedly asserting that Welch stormed into the restaurant with an "assault rifle" yet the most outspoken and clear witness who was there, who was also allegedly one of the last to leave, never reported seeing any rifle, and confirmed multiple times that the suspect had a shotgun. Did Welch have the AR-15 shoved up his ass?

The very objective press release published on the DC government website from Metropolitan PD made sure to round it off with,

During a post arrest interview this evening, the suspect revealed that he came to the establishment to self-investigate "Pizza Gate" (a fictitious online conspiracy theory).

Thank you for giving us your esteemed opinion about the veracity of an online conspiracy theory, next time just fill out the fucking paperwork. To their credit though, they did respond with almost unbelievable speed.

The aforementioned Washingtonian piece says that Little Red Fox owner Matt Carr "saw at least seven to nine police cars swarm the restaurant" within two to three minutes. Seven to nine police cars within a few minutes?

CPP was reportedly heightening its security during music shows, and police were certainly aware of the torrential downpour of death threats alleged by Alefantis, but still seven to nine or more police vehicles within minutes is quite extraordinary. It's almost as if they were somehow tipped off beforehand.

Hilariously, various DC media personnel have been publishing tweets indiscriminately ridiculing the undifferentiated mass of "conspiracy theorists," whom they refer to as "mouth-breathers," because some might suspect that Welch and others were part of a "false flag op."

Here's a thought: maybe do your fucking jobs and learn how to write a fucking article. This would typically include such ground breaking methods as asking witnesses, "what did you see?"

Also helpful would be attempting to stitch together the evidence into a clear coherent picture so people can actually understand what the fuck happened. If there are seeming contradictions then attempting to gain further clarification with witnesses and police would probably go a long way in minimizing any confusion.

What the media does not understand, or refuses to understand, is that not every "conspiracy theorist" will be a proponent of a particular theory no matter what. Given ample evidence they might adjust their position. Many conspiracy theorists are critical thinkers who have simply committed the deadly sin of not blindly accepting incoherent contradictions even when those contradictions come from a place of supposed authority or from those operating under the pretense of "investigative journalism" (puke).

The mainstream media, until its dying breath (and it is dying), will maintain at all costs that us "mouth-breathers" have no justification for being suspicious towards them. Yet it's obvious that a large portion of that suspicion is driven by their embarrassing levels of incompetence and all out refusal to investigate those whom they rub elbows with, lest they lose their precious press access and invites to cocktail parties.

Rather than accept any responsibility it's simply easier to act like buffoons and point the finger at their supposed political enemies (even though not everyone interested in pizzagate, such as myself, is a Donald Trump supporter).

TL;DR; All the reports are still in conflict and the mainstream media is filled with 2nd graders

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7:00 PM EST

DC Police Department @DCPoliceDept Archived: 7:45:53 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 - link - archive

8:00 PM EST

Man armed with a rifle terrorizes customers at a Washington pizza shop - just weeks after staff received death threats over fake claims Hillary Clinton abused children there Updated: 8:14 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016, Posted: 7:48 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Archived: 8:27:28 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 - link - archive

Abby D. Phillip @abbydphillip 8:56 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Just to be perfectly clear how real this was: The suspect actually fired his weapon, according to police. - link - archive

9:00 PM EST

Sharif Silmi, Esq @bayreef 9:05 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 @abbydphillip @brianstelter I was at comet one of the last 3 people out and we did not see or hear shots fired - that is shocking devel. - link - archive

Comet Ping Pong Gunman Said He Was Investigating Online Conspiracy Theory: Police Updated: ~9:57 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016, Posted: 4:05 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Archived: 10:03:07 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 "A bartender at Comet, who said he didn't see a gun himself" - link - archive

Unknown time on December 4th

Man With Gun Arrested at Comet Ping Pong Posted: 4 Dec 2016 Archived: 12:11:12 AM EST - 5 Dec 2016 "Welch made no vocal threats or demands during the incident inside Comet Ping Pong, police say." - link - archive

December 5th, 2016

Metropolitan Police Department Press Release Posted: 5 Dec 2016 Archived: 7:36:48 AM EST - 5 Dec 2016 - link - archive

N.C. man told police he went to D.C. pizzeria with assault rifle to ‘self-investigate’ election-related conspiracy theory Posted: 8:07 AM EST - 5 Dec 2016 Archived: 9:59:11 AM EST - 5 Dec 2016 - link - archive

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5:00 PM EST

Deputy Mayor Donahue ‏@SafeDC 5:00 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 .@DCPoliceDept Chief Newsham: Not clear what suspect's motive was; he made no demands of any kind. - link - archive

Fake news, real bullets: Suspect with rifle arrested at DC restaurant named in ‘Pizzagate’ story Posted: 5:09 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Archived: 6:54:34 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 - link - archive

jeffgep @jeffgep 5:12 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 New Video :Active police presence still at #CometPizza in #DC as of 5:10pm @fox5dc - link - archive

Miss_Comix @Miss_Comix 5:12 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Outside #Comet Ping Pong in NW DC. Apparently a man went in with a rifle. The whole block has been sectioned off. - link - archive

Armed man arrested at DC restaurant that was center of Clinton conspiracy theory Posted: 5:14 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Archived: 7:20:33 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 - link - archive

Armed Man Enters Comet Ping Pong, Detained Peacefully Posted: 5:21 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Archived: 7:16:48 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 - link - archive

Armed Man Enters Comet Ping Pong, Detained Peacefully Posted: 5:21 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Archived: 10:47:01 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 "Police were called at just before 3 p.m. and the situation was resolved without shots being fire." - link - archive

Ryan Ludick @rrludick 5:23 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 One of @realDonaldTrump army of morons brings their woeful ignorance to #DC #Trump #AmericanIdiots #RepealThe2nd #PizzaGate #Comet - link - archive

jeffgep @jeffgep 5:28 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Picture I took of man with his hands up - not sure if this is the suspect @fox5dc (this pic only to be used by #fox5dc) - link - archive

Marina Marraco ‏@MarinaMarraco 5:36 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 RIGHT NOW @ #CometPizza per source: surveillance video being pulled. Witnesses being interviewed at nearby firehouse 1/2 - link - archive

Marina Marraco ‏@MarinaMarraco 5:37 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Suspect @ #CometPizza drove Prius w/ North Carolina tags.Looking at ADW-gun charge (for now).Interim Chief Newsham @ firehouse w/ witnesses - link - archive

jeffgep @jeffgep 5:37 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 A new picture I took of man being arrested outside of #Cometpizza in #DC. Not sure if this is the suspect. @fox5dc #fox5dc - link - archive

George McIntyre @GeorgeMcIntyre_ 5:40 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 The suspect - link - archive

Gunman enters Washington restaurant hit by fake news reports Posted: 5:40 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Archived: 9:30:50 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 - link - archive

5:47 PM EST - Edgar Maddison Welch's name released -

Deputy Mayor Donahue ‏@SafeDC 5:47 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 .@DCPoliceDept press release on arrest of Edgar Maddison Welch, 28, of Salisbury, NC for assault w/dangerous weapon at Comet restaurant. - link - archive

Man Walks Into 'Comet Ping Pong' in DC with a Gun: Reports [VIDEO] Posted: 5:48 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Archived: 8:15:46 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 - link - archive

Marina Marraco ‏@MarinaMarraco 5:51 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 cometpizza witnesses being taken down to 4D to speak with detectives. Suspect's Prius just towed away from scene. - link - archive

DC Police Department @DCPoliceDept 5:52 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Update: Area by 5000 block of Connecticut Ave NW cleared w/no hazardous material found. - link - archive

DC Police Department @DCPoliceDept 5:53 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Update: Connecticut Ave between Fessenden St and Nebraska Ave NW has reopened in both Directions. . // 10735 - link - archive

Darcy Spencer @darcyspencer 5:57 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Suspect's car just towed from in front of Comet. live team coverage at 6. - link - archive

William Lafi Youmans @wyoumans 5:57 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 @bayreef Whoa man. You saw him? Cops question you? - link - archive

Sharif Silmi, Esq @bayreef 5:59 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 @wyoumans yes I was playing ping pong with my wife when he walked in. I didn't talk to the police I took a photo of him being arrested - link - archive

6:00 PM EST

Man Armed With an Assault Rifle Arrested at Comet Ping Pong Posted: 6 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Archived: 7:17:39 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 - link - archive

D.C. Police detain suspect with an assault rifle at Comet Ping Pong restaurant Posted: 6:05 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Archived: 7:11:13 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 - link - archive

D.C. Police arrest suspect with an assault rifle at Comet Ping Pong restaurant Posted: 6:05 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Archived: 8:54:07 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 - link - archive

jeffgep @jeffgep 6:51 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 from Washington, DC I just slowed down my video and snapped this pic of the suspect on the ground being arrested outside #cometpingpong @fox5dc - link - archive

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jeffgep @jeffgep 4:04 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 New video shot from neighbors window - police still shouting get back inside to people on the street @fox5dc - link - archive

darcy Spencer @darcyspencer 4:11 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Man who was working in Comet says gunman walked in, acted bizarre. Believes tied to conspiracy theory. - link - archive

jeffgep @jeffgep 4:06 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 new video from scene at #cometpizza @fox5dc - link - archive

Franak Viačorka @franakviacorka 4:10 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 a gunman had the assault rifle, at #comet pizza restaurant no shooting or injuries reported. yet - link - archive

Stephanie Ramirez @RamirezReports 4:11 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 @DCPoliceDept Chief to update us in about 15 min @wusa9 - link - archive

darcy Spencer @darcyspencer 4:11 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Comet ping pong employee says man walked in with a gun, acted bizarre. Patrons and workers left. Man now in custody - link - archive

Suspect carrying assault rifle arrested near Comet Ping Pong Posted: 4:15 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Archived: 4:19:23 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 "Bystanders said he walked in and went to the back of the restaurant." "No shots were fired and no injuries have been reported." - link - archive

Stephanie Ramirez @RamirezReports 4:16 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Member of @DCPoliceDept press office says male suspect had a loaded assault rife @wusa9 #pizzagate - link - archive

jeffgep @jeffgep 4:20 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 The latest video and report from the scene #cometpizza #fox5dc @fox5dc - link - archive

jeffgep @jeffgep 4:23 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 from Washington, DC New Video from #cometpizza #dc @fox5dc #fox5dc - link - archive

Police respond to reports of man with gun at Comet Ping Pong Posted: 4:24 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Archived: 8:44:33 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 - link - archive

George McIntyre @GeorgeMcIntyre_ 4:27 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 LIVE on #Periscope: Comet Pizza Incident Live - link - archive

Sharif Silmi, Esq @bayreef 4:31 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 @wyoumans I was there when the gun man came in. I think he was trying to stash the shotgun in the back to use later on - link - archive

Man Walks Into 'Comet Ping Pong' in DC with a Gun: Reports [VIDEO] Posted: 4:35 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Archived: 5:30:28 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 - link - archive

jeffgep @jeffgep 4:42 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 update : DC police still on the scene of #cometpizza @fox5dc #fox5dc @MarinaMarraco - link - archive

Man with assault rifle enters Comet Ping Pong, victim of fake Clinton-trafficking story Posted: 4:51 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Archived: 5:26:29 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 - link - archive

Armed man arrested near D.C. pizzeria targeted by fake news Posted: 4:55 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Archived: 5:30:12 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 - link - archive

Deputy Mayor Donahue ‏@SafeDC 4:56 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 .@MayorBowser & @DCPoliceDept Chief Newsham providing media update on incident at Comet restaurant; suspect in custody; motive unclear. - link - archive

Man With Assault Rifle Arrested at Comet Ping Pong in NW D.C. Updated: ~4:57 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016, Posted: ~4:07 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Archived: 5:04:43 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 "No shots were fired and no injuries were reported." - link - archive

Debra Alfarone @DebraAlfarone 4:57 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 DC Police Chief Peter Newsham says man walked into Comet Ping Pong & fired into the ground - more than 1 shot. @wusa9 - link - archive

D.C. Police detain suspect with an assault rifle at Comet Ping Pong restaurant Posted: 4:58 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Archived: 5:25:01 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 - link - archive

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Here is the timeline:

December 4th, 2016

Sharif Silmi, Esq @bayreef 3:04 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 @NBCNews @NPR guy with shotgun entered @cometpingpong 3pm - link - archive

Alan Henney @alanhenney 3:04 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 MAN W/RIFLE AT COMET PIZZA, Connecticut Av and Nebraska Av NW-DC. MPD surrounding restaurant and may be calling SWAT-ERT. - link - archive

Sharif Silmi, Esq @bayreef 3:06 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 @asmamk guy just walked in comet Pizza with shotgun - link - archive

Kent Hoshiko @Kenttouch_this 3:11 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 A man just walked into the Comet restaurant in DC with a rifle. No shots heard. I'm ok, hiding in the red fox coffeeshop next door. - link - archive

Kent Hoshiko @Kenttouch_this 3:14 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Lots of police on location but nobody's talked to us yet. Doors are locked. Haven't heard anything. - link - archive

Alan Henney @alanhenney 3:17 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 u/d MAN w/RIFLE IN COMET PINGPONG, 5037 Ct Av- Man rpt'd inside rear room of Comet. SWAT-ERT en rte to cmd post at firehouse. Roads CLOSED. - link - archive

Kent Hoshiko @Kenttouch_this 3:18 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Police are here and surrounded the building. Employees said he walked past everyone towards the back of the restaurant. - link - archive

Kent Hoshiko @Kenttouch_this 3:18 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Employees and customers ran out, and several came in to the Red Fox with me. Man was carrying what appeared to be an assault rifle. - link - archive

Report: Man with Rifle at Comet Ping Pong in Chevy Chase Update: Man surrendered to police. Posted: 3:21 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Archived: 5:29:15 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 "Alan Henney reports just after 3pm" - link - archive

DC Police Department @DCPoliceDept 3:23 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Police Activity: Connecticut Ave between Fessenden St and Nebraska St NW Closed in both Directions. Please seek alternate route. // 10735 - link - archive

Kent Hoshiko @Kenttouch_this 3:24 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 A man just exited comet with his hands on his head. Comet employees with me say it's the guy that entered with a gun. - link - archive

Sharif Silmi, Esq @bayreef 3:24 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Suspect at #cometpizza apprehended great job @DCPoliceDept (note: Sharif is the one who took the picture of the man alleged to be Edgar Maddison Welch surrendering) - link - archive

Kent Hoshiko @Kenttouch_this 3:27 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 He's been handcuffed and put in a squad car. Police haven't come to escort us out or anything yet though (again, im next door from comet) - link - archive

Alan Henney @alanhenney 3:28 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 u/d COMET PINGPONG, 5037 Ct Av NW-DC. A man has surrendered to PD. SWAT-ERT and bomb techs will sweep Comet and man's car parked outside. - link - archive

jeffgep @jeffgep 3:30 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Major police presence near #comet pizza in #Northwest DC near the corner of Connecticut and Nebraska. Man arrested. - link - archive

Mike Reinitz @reintzgebot @PoPville police with guns drawn outside Comet 3:30 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 @PoPville police with guns drawn outside Comet - link - archive

Kent Hoshiko @Kenttouch_this 3:31 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Rebekah and i were literally about to walk into the restaurant when I remembered i was parked illegally. Moved the car, and in that time... - link - archive

PoPville @PoPville 3:33 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Comet Ping Pong Man with Rifle update from @alanhenney: "A man has surrendered" - link - archive

Ryan Snow @ryanpsnow 3:35 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 from Washington, DC The crazy conspiracy theorists behind #pizzagate are now armed and my n'hood is barracaded. #comet @realDonaldTrump - link - archive

jeffgep @jeffgep 3:37 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 police guns drawn not sure what's coming on ... @fox5dc - link - archive

Kent Hoshiko @Kenttouch_this 3:37 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Comet employees with me say that all their employees are accounted for. But the place was also filled with customers. - link - archive

Kirby @KirbyReitz 3:39 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Was walking to CVS when people came out of Comet Pizza. Employee mentioned possible gunmen. Serious police presence within minutes. - link - archive

Stephanie Ramirez @RamirezReports 3:41 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 @DCPoliceDept spokesperson says police received report of a man w/gun at the Comet pizzeria on CT Ave. @wusa9 - link - archive

Stephanie Ramirez @RamirezReports 3:44 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Told @DCPoliceDept supervisors are searching but so far no evidence of gunman discovered. Heavy investigation underway @wusa9 #pizzagate - link - archive

Cameron @dasTurbo 3:47 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Down the street from #Comet - link - archive

Sharif Silmi, Esq @bayreef 3:47 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Police still clearing the block #cometpizza - link - archive

Kent Hoshiko @Kenttouch_this 3:48 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 SWAT now entering Comet. Presumably clearing it. Again: a man has already been arrested. - link - archive

Stephanie Ramirez @RamirezReports 3:49 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Still a very active scene. Watching SWAT team & chopper. Officers focused in area of CT and Nebraska @wusa9 - link - archive

DC Police Department @DCPoliceDept 3:50 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Update: suspect armed w/ assault rifle taken into custody. - link - archive

UPDATES: Man With Rifle Arrested at Comet Pizza in DC; Restaurant Target of PizzaGate Theories Posted: 3:52 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Archived: 4:25:14 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 - link - archive

Stephanie Ramirez @RamirezReports 3:53 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 @DCPoliceDept tweeted a suspect armed w/ assault rifle taken into custody @wusa9 #pizzagate - link - archive

jeffgep @jeffgep 3:55 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 I was ordered back inside here's my view from my neighbors window @fox5dc - link - archive

Suspect armed with assault rifle enters Comet Ping Pong, is apprehended Updated: 3:57 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016, Posted: 3:23 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 Archived: 4:06:28 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 - link - archive

DC Police Department @DCPoliceDept Archived: 3:57:23 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 - link - archive

Franak Viačorka @franakviacorka 3:59 PM EST - 4 Dec 2016 There's a gunman at #comet pizza restaurant now in #DC - link - archive