Huh? I think logic/truth is always the best way to go.

Are you seventeen?

This whole thing started because of wikileaks.

...which is paid attention to because it's strong. We aren't

"Downplaying the connection" to Russia is best done by using left wing sites that prove that, such as the politifact link from above. Right?

I'd say more efficient would be to keep our mouths shut in this topic. This is #1 way to be labeled "conspiracy theory".

If you care about the cause, don't care about your beliefs. Nobody cares what you or I think. They think we're bunch of geeks looking for attention.

Therefore we need posture and seriousness. Did you notice that shills were posting crazy articles with lots of "!!!" , bad language etc? The intention was to make us look like idiots.

*Scapegoat Russia?

Immaterial. Right now "Russia" is a bad word, so Pizzagate needs to play down the connection.

For fuck's sake, people... there's nothing wrong in using the enemy's methods. I know I'm being a cynical asshole, but the enemy isn't exactly a holy man.

How is it that the powers that be have convinced all of us that they have the formula to define "free speech" as set forth in our very DNA? Free speech is the ability to speak or write without censure; in other words, all speech in America is allowed. What hubris of these dolts to try to "define" what may be said or written in America! What makes them any different from any tyrants we have ever fought against? They are, indeed, totally deranged and mad!

"It has been reported by eyewitness [SIC]..." Sorry, but without more proof or revealing who this eye witness was, this is not credible at all. I'm referring to the Podesta part, of course, not the fact that the bill passed.

All strategies point to censorship.

Is "Fake News" part of the wording of the bill? Would explain why they've been pushing that feeble label so much.

Fuck red boys. We goin back to the cold war.

Marco Rubio would be a great go to as well.

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1457249

They are going to blame Russia so that they can justify taking away our free speech!

"Fake news" would be if someone photo-shopped that cannibalism picture behind him. Or the wikileaks emails were fakes. This is just a push for wholesale censorship of the internet.

I have been quite concerned about a comment that I read recently which is on a public post on James Alefantis's Facebook page. Maybe I am reading too much into it. But putting it into the context of the timeline of events I'm not sure. Ordinarily, I do not like to drive traffic to someone's personal page, but I believe that people here are responsible and his post is public (for now). If you do go have a look please be courteous and do not leave any messages for him. That only hurts us and we do not know what is going on. I have uploaded a clip from a conversation he posted a few days ago. It's in the thread of his most recent public post. The link to the comment that I think warrants attention is here: https://sli.mg/aKrvzf

HR6393 was passed in the house and received in the senate on 12/01/2016. Does anyone know when they will vote on this? Here is a link to find out how to contact your senetor: http://www.senate.gov/senators/contact/

This entire thread is so full of stupid. WTF, people. You need to switch off your televisions and open your minds. Your comments are so idiotic that you make us all look stupid by association. Turn the TV off!

I still think any policy that attacks us will work for us. I sometimes felt this was going to a war like place anyway, it's not like we can live along side paedophiles

Let me explain the dangers of this bill. It gives power to congress to counteract "Russian Propaganda" First of all for those who are not clear the Russia excuse was used by Hilary Clinton and Jon Podesta immediately after the first D.C. Leaks prior to any investigation. They then continued the insanity every time they were caught lying or trying to cover their tracks. This alone should have disqualified her for the Presidency. It is dangerous to accuse a country like Russia in this way. We also know that the Clinton Foundation and their cronies made a deal that involved Russians obtaining a large portion of the USA Uris in. The Podestas also have business ties to Russia. Next Wikileaks released information back into thre last administration where was Hilary Clinton screaming Russia as a senator with Security clearance. FinLly there is information from Anonymous that patriots of ours leaked to save the country. If you notice no one ever stated conclusively that Russia was responsible. They made insulation saiid looks like Russia etc. FBI director would not say it. So why would congress put in a bill that specifically talks about Russia at the same time they are screaming "fake news" not one of them who's duty it is to investigate is saying anything. Most wanted Clinton to win we watched the fake investigation of her. The MSM were caught in direct collision and lying so citizens turned to alternative media to find tha truth. As it got exposed they first screamed conspiracy theorists using the term Alt right and associating it with Nazi's and accusing everyone of being xenophobic racist homophobic Islamaphonic I could go on. Next then they tried to discredit citizen journalists as Pizzagate exploded the same time President Obama said on television we have a problem with fake news and within days Mark Zuckerberg said on teleision we have a problem with fake news, A twitter researcher exposed I believe 9000 CP twitter users and twitter responded by suspending the researcher and many users talking about pizzagate and has censored it ever sense. Reddit users came to Voat continued investigating the MSM was a complete blackout except one mention by a Howard Kurtz that said the claims are ridiculous and he ytakes his children there really???? So Fake news has been uparroted like bird across all major networks who also preached everything is Russia ' s fault and Trump had no chance of winning. and the Clinton Foundation was a wonderful charity helping poor children everywhere and if it was stopped they told us people will die. NYT wrote that pizzagate is fake news with no fact checking the Times is owned by Carlos Slim (look him up) and also co operated by the guy who was in charge of the BBC which suppressed hid the story of Jimmy Saville a pedophile of the highest order connected to the elite in the U. K. Now all of this is being shoved down the throats of the American people even CNN told their audience it was illegal for them to read wikileaks...what a joke.. so here is the problem with the bill they are using the Russian propaganda garbage to create a law where the government gets to decide what is real what propanda and as stated can take action against it. It is pretty obvious that the government is not investigating itself and possibly protecting itself or is compromised. Now they get to decide who gets to be a journalist and provide news. They who have already openly accused and censored committed investigative journalist can just decide this is either Russian propaganda or fake news. This is so dangerous our constitution protects free speech and journalist. They are all screaming Russia but that is what happens in Russia state run news favorable to the powerful. Next question with all that has been released about John and Tony Podesta even if you just take in the massive corruption cronyism the Clinton Foundation, the horrible things that are publicly known of pictures of child sexual abuse in his hous (yes that is what they are painted by a survivor of extreme trauma I believe..look where the redness is located on the children's body's it is screaming sexual abuse). So knowing this why in the hell is John Podesta even allowed on capital hill much less with a ranking member of the intelligence community R-Nunes and now a bill is passed with specific language about Russia propaganda and exerting influence to stop it. John Podesta should not be on capital hill we the people should these are our representatives. We have to make stopping HR 6393 a priority they need to explain it to the American people. Let's call our Senators Representatives get it trending on twitter get Trump to see it.

Any chance we can get a list of who voted for the bill? (shot in the dark) we might be able to use it to cross reference the names with other leads, maybe something will stand out.

Most victims of CP and trafficking are minorities. They are black, Hispanic and often times early LGBT leaning children who are most at risk. It's important to emphasize these victims to get those in power within those communities and their power structure involved!

How the fuck can that be legal??.. 1st amendment is free speech.. Couldn't this shit go to court all the way up to the supreme court??.. This bill is like literally battling the internet's free flow of information.. Good fucking luck stopping that shit..

If there was any proof Russia was involved we'd be hearing about it ad nauseum. It's just innuendo. The reality is that there was extensive support for Hillary from foreign donors such as Saudi Arabia and Qatar. That is real, the Russian angle isn't.

i agree, but Trump is already changing geopolitics by take away China's greatest ally (Russia) and putting a lot of political pressure on them by recognizing Taiwan as a independent nation. he is basically starting to chip away at there pride and standing in the world for a better negotiating position and China has some serious finical troubles coming there way. they are scared of someone messing with the status quo and Trump is demonstrating just that; "do as i say or i will mess with your shit".

And yet there wasn't peep out of anyone when the media was fanning the flames of police shooting blacks and causing riots and burnings of communities. This based on FAKE news and propaganda because the stats never proved what the rhetoric was saying. And now? Try to find concise stats. You can't because they have these weird breakdowns that obscure the fact that whites by far have the greater percentage and probability of being shot. So we have a terrorist group springing up and blocking streets, mugging, and looting, but one false flag and that's it? As long as the shut down puts a gag order on MSN, the NYT, Huffington Post, and the usual suspects in the HRC camp, I won't have an objection. But you notice that they wanted to shut down WikiLeaks also when that was only telling the truth so what is it that they want?

we really shouldnt worry about china either

we should be focusing on fixing ourselves to function at some point more reasonably than fubar!

Sorry yes it is HR 6393

FAKE NEWS?

Not seeing it: https://www.congress.gov/

"It has been reported..." WHERE?

We need to spread this to Breitbart, Drudge, TheBlaze, InfoWars, r/The_Donald, ect ASAP. Spread the word!

So 1) What proof do they have what is Russian propaganda and what isn't? Anything right wing and online is Russian propaganda? 2) How do they define what is a "fake news" site and what isn't? Just because a site gets their facts wrong once or twice makes them a fake news site? By that definition that would include a lot of mainstream media...

Podesta outs Nunes...what an idiot Nunes is being caught in the act entertaining #PizzaGate Podesta. Soros/Podesta must have some heavy duty stuff on him...

Devin Nunes

intelligence

Pick one.

The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

This report came out right before the election. Iben Thranholm speaks of the 'regime change' ; a virtual flip-flop of former USSR & former USA- An ex Fbi agent boasts of his role(in bringing Christianity to 1970's USSR yet, he neglects to speak of the coinciding social engineering of the USA. Ms Thranholm doesn't mind telling the truth, tho. God bless her integrity & personal ethics. ' On The Brink of World War III | Iben Thranholm and Stefan Molyneux ' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV_AIN4CS9M

The Red Scare (part2)

I think you mean HR6393. https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/6393

I found the bill, it's HR 6393: https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/6393

I think this is the relevant part of the bill:

"The bill establishes an executive branch interagency committee to counter active measures by the Russian Federation to exert covert influence over peoples and governments. It places travel restrictions on personnel and consulars of the Russian Federation in the United States."

Suggested path to deal with this situation:

• in the light of stronger and stronger accusations that Russians messed with the elections, it is absolutely necessary to distance ourselves from them
• my suggestion is to finally deal with being called "fake news". It doesn't take much. There is a lot of circumstantial, but appealing evidence.
• This has been compiled into a graphic already, but mixed with ufo/chemtrails level of bullshit, so nobody took it seriously.
• Hint: take two-three Podesta emails, a few Instagram pics, and present them in a graphic. No sensationalism! Less is more! Let people decide.
• Then post on a reliable website, e.g. Wikileaks Wiki.
• when the question of reliability comes up, point to this website.
• Last but not least, keep psychos on a leash. Our own people can do more damage than shills.

Link the bill, kayfabe.

HR6368 has nothing to do with the media: https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/6383

Did I miss something?