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micha_ ago

I have a few questions:

THE REDDIT USER SPECIFICALLY MENTIONS HER CONCERNS ABOUT HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND HER BOSS’S ACTIVITY AS CHEESYBAY.

HER? You know she is female? Can you point to the reddit-text indicating that?

You are writing about "Richard Windsor" and then suddenly jump to "Dave Stone". How is this "Dave Stone" connected to "Richard Windsor" or the Clinton Foundation?

And the mentioning of another "Dave Stone", only because it's a name that can be associated with Goldman Sachs, but admitting that he is dead? What is that good for or do I understand you wrong?

The "raving reviews of used HDs" from cheesybay are well known. But I have read some the user ratings and

a) Cheesybay was selling lots of other hardware, not only HDs

b) I could not find any suspicious reviews of sold HDs. Only very typical ebay buyer feedback.

But can you show us the suspicious feedback that indicates that the HDs were filled with CP?

Edit 1: The name I see is "Bif Skipman", not "Biff Skippman". And he also calls it cheesebay, not cheesybay.

TheGrimReader ago

Allow mw to explain: Sasha/Anita Lord emails Dave Stone about getting a reference for Richard Windsor.

Dave Stone is not directly connected to goldman Sachs.

BP BISHOP TRUST owns 5% of Goldman Sachs as well as the property is question.

Dave Stone is mentioned multiple times in HRC's leaked emails, one is an officer who died. But the fact that she has a private meeting with a "Dave Stone" after the death of the service man implies there is more than one. In fact the emails indicated a third dave stone.

In the emails of HRC he is attached to an LLC dealing with human trafficking but according to research they only own a few pieces of real estate in DC.

Does that help?

micha_ ago

You mean in the Podesta emails? Why isn't that important info mentioned or explained?

Where are the references to these emails so that they can be checked?

Why are pics with a resolution so low used, that the letters can't be read?

No overview, no summary of facts, no conclusions. Just a collection of data and claiming it was relevant somehow, but HOW relevant it is, others may check, please...

pall_mall ago

Yea this shit'll make you dizzy and I'm not convinced it isn't intentionally that way. Always seems like a nugget of something odd and then it floods you with information to hide the fact that the actual connections are really thin. i try and follow it as best i can so i only recognize bits and pieces but im fairly positive that the whole 'hotdog stand?!?' part doesn't connect to the podesta but his brother and refers to a joke that amounts to retiring on the beach that was in some article.

there has been some odd shit but i dont know that anything here is terribly coherent or passes the threshold of just stretching shit to the point that it sorta kinda almost fits?

micha_ ago

Ofcourse that's intentional. If you want others to collaborate on a difficult topic, you have researched, will you give an overview, explanations and conclusions, so that you can receive help ASAP, or will you write unstructured posts, with missing and unreadable data, but purely based on sensationalism?

Pay attention, how my simple, but crucial questions will be answered. ;-)

pall_mall ago

The problem is when the information overload distracts from the purpose. The connections are what are important. You can have two huge puzzles built but if the only piece connecting them looks like it was mashed in there and doesn't fit then the entire exercise is ridiculous.

I see a lot of information about a lot of different things. Some do look shady but shady isn't a connection to anything. There are an infinite amount shady things. I mean from tax evasion, to building codes to fucking pedos. My problem isn't with the information.

My problem is that the connections to the larger picture are fucking shaky at best.

micha_ ago

It can't even be called information overload. It's more like BS-overload. The good and important facts are buried by sensationalist garbage. This thread is one example. Another one is the sticky 240MM money laundering thread. ZERO factual connection to CPP. or the Clinton Foundation. The same in this thread: all important conclusions are made out of thin air.

In the meanwhile I even have doubts, if the majority even can follow these confusing posts logically. They seem to react only because they are triggered by single words or sentences. But if the next sentence has absolutely no causal relationship seems to be already outside the scope of understanding.

SpikyAube ago

The connections are there, it's just I think people post their process in a way, how they got from A to Z via the rest of the alphabet. These people aren't professionals, so give them a break! So what if they haven't laid it all out as clearly as possible with an infographic and a network diagram etc, if you just do your own search on the basis of what's been presented it makes sense, and eventually someone will come along and format everything into some sort of document that presents it all clearly. This post shows a connection between a woman who works at Comet Ping Pong and a board member of the Clinton Foundation, and a connection between said board member and someone called Dave Stone, who has some weird Potato Head websites that show he uses both the name Stone and Flintstone, and a website showing that he has a vodka business in Hawaii.

Dave Stone is also connected with 'Bif Skipman' through his emails. A search of Bif Skipman shows he too lists himself as in Hawaii, and mentions 'Cheese bay.' Given the whole cheese code meaning, a search for cheese bay is performed, which brings up 'cheesy bay' on eBay. A search of reddit for cheesybay brings up a 7 month old thread from someone concerned that something dodgy is going on where they are staying in Hawaii, with strange wifi signals and possible underground facility of some kind. The Redditor mentions that their boss runs cheesybay and thinks it's dodgy, selling faulty hard drives.

In the photos this person posted 7 months ago, way before Pizzagate started, you can see empty boxes of the same vodka that David Stone's business makes. They also mention the address so people can look on Google maps, and searching that address shows that David Stone's distillery business is registered there. The property and others on the same street are owned by the Bishop Trust, the trustees of which are appointed by the Democrats that have been in power in Hawaii for decades, and are known to have been tainted with corruption.

So, this shows a connection between something apparently dodgy going on in Hawaii, possibly relating to child porn being sold as hard drives on eBay, and looking like there is some off the grid, underground, connected facility in Hawaii that is controlled/owned by people that are very connected with senior Democrats. The problem is that there is no solid proof that there is child porn being sold, or that there is definitely something illegal going on underground at that address in Hawaii. But it does look suspicious, and making all these connections means that when the hard, solid evidence of child porn/trafficking turns up, it will be very difficult for many of the senior people involved to wriggle out of it. I think by now it is almost certain that there is a paedophile/trafficking/child porn ring going on. There is just too much, far too many connections, too many incredible 'coincidences' for it to be statistically likely that they are connected only by chance.

I think it is likely law enforcement with all their resources would be necessary to find that kind of solid evidence, as I doubt it can be found simply by looking online!

I hope that explained/cleared up the connections?

micha_ ago

So far nobody has presented evidence that there even were suspicious reviews for "cheesybay". As I understand it, everything is built on that and nobody writing articles about it, is checking that claim for verifiable facts?

Writing such a topic and then showing no interest at all to show the community the "cheesybay"-facts?

SpikyAube ago

Yeah I've looked through the cheesy bay reviews and also can only see one or two that could be weird or suspicious, most of the info on what had been purchased is also gone as it's old. I think the person who posted 7 months ago was already really suspicious about what was going on, due to the wifi signals and the weird off-grid power line and evidence of some underground facility, so when they discovered that their boss, who was involved in all of that, was also selling used hard drives on eBay, it obviously made them think of child porn, because if you're already really suspicious that someone's running some kind of big illegal operation and then you find out they're also selling used hard drives on eBay, and knowing that that's how child porn is often sold, that is the conclusion you would come to. So maybe when they looked through the reviews and saw that they were all very very positive, might have seemed odd to them, especially if they don't use eBay much and so don't know that most positive eBay feedback is a bit over the top with all the AAAAA***** Super amazing FANTASTIC type reviews.

So I don't think the reviews actually matter all that much, what matters is that the same guy who has this vodka business in Hawaii, also owns/lives at this address with strange suspicious goings on involving powering an underground facility, which is owned by a trust managed by Democrat appointees, who has various aliases, has private meetings with H Clinton, and yet also sells used hard drives on eBay, and happened to be discovered during an investigation into child abuse/paedophilia/child trafficking.

micha_ ago

No. It matters for investigation, if there is ZERO evidence of these "raving reviews"!!! (at least I have seen not one)

You are assuming the best case from that cheesybay-story. If you exclude other possibilities, then you are not better than the MSM claiming pizzagate was fake! What if the cheesybay-story was completely made up?

It shows, how important it is, to demand VERIFIABLE FACTS.