Hey guys, first of all, I am 100% convinced there's both smoke and fire with this whole thing. It's huge. BUT
There are a lot of videos and articles out there that are repeating "facts" that have been debunked. Even if you tell someone 10 incontrovertible facts, if 1 thing is debunked, that's the only thing they'll focus on. For instance
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a lot of people point to the "Arch of Hysteria" sculpture in Tony Podestas house and say "it's a tribute to Jeffery Dahmer..." Well, it's not. It's fucked up, but it's the artist's rendition of someone writhing violently in a psychotic fit. Source: https://www.gallery.ca/en/see/collections/artwork.php?mkey=100798
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The "Boum Boum Room" pic isn't from Comet. It's a club (a total get drunk and fuck each other club, mind you, but a club in DC nonetheless). Very easy to be discredited if you try to point to this and say, "why is this at a family friendly pizza joint?" It's not.
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The 14 and the fish on John PĒD-esta's hands. That photo is attached to a Wikileaks email where he says he's happy about the #14 item on a climate change agenda: protecting the oceans and sea life. Even if there's a double meaning, the fact that there's a simple explanation is enough to ruin your/our credibility if we go repeating that crap.
Point is We should STRONGLY police ourselves and have a sticky post for all debunked garbage, so we don't go ruining our own credibility. Otherwise we'll end up like 9-11 Truthers, fighting to be taken seriously for decades, and a whole lot of kids are going to become "pizza-related"
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topkek1337 ago
Yep, I'm British too. Your friend circle must be pretty retarded because that's not what happens in mine. We use rationality.
Truthology ago
Well, I'm British too. And pretty much everyone I know think 9/11 was a load of BS. If you want to use rationality, then Building 7 falling inside it's own footprint, and PROOF that it fell in free fall speed for at least 3 seconds, goes against the laws of physics (explosives is the only rational explanation). Add to the fact that you have eye witness testimony from the guy who was in Building 7 as explosions were going off, then you have your eye witness. Including the lawyer to Rudy Guiliani who was also there. The evidence is ridiculous.
Two planes cannot take down 3 buildings. There are thousands of architects for 9/11 Truth, firefighters, police, lawyers, etc etc. They're practically DEBUNKED the official conspiracy theory.
topkek1337 ago
I'm sorry where is your building engineering and physics degree?
Truthology ago
Oh, you REALLY want the opinions of people with engineering and physics degrees? Then why not head over to http://www.ae911truth.org/ ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEERS FOR 9/11 TRUTH. With nearly 3,000 signatures.
Or how about US Military Generals for 9/11 truth? There are hundreds of them. http://mo911truth.org/
Or maybe Pilots for 9/11 truth http://www.pilotsfor911truth.org/
Scholars for 9/11 truth http://911scholars.org/
These are NOT conspiracy theorist websites but DEBUNKING sites made by professionals. But I have the assumption that you are not interested.
topkek1337 ago
What do pilots know? or Generals? or scholars for that matter.
That petition is bunk, anyone can sign it.
Truthology ago
Oh dear. I just moved my cursor over your name "Submission Contribution Points -3, Comment Contribution Points -18". Wow. It's pretty clear that you are nothing but a troll. I should have done that before, but now I know your not worth replying too.
Truthology ago
What do professional pilots or Military Generals know? Are you kidding me? Go back to school.
topkek1337 ago
Lol yeah pilots & Military Generals are known for their understanding of architecture and psychics. /S (you seem pretty simple so I better make sure you knew it was sarcasm)