Hey guys, first of all, I am 100% convinced there's both smoke and fire with this whole thing. It's huge. BUT
There are a lot of videos and articles out there that are repeating "facts" that have been debunked. Even if you tell someone 10 incontrovertible facts, if 1 thing is debunked, that's the only thing they'll focus on. For instance
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a lot of people point to the "Arch of Hysteria" sculpture in Tony Podestas house and say "it's a tribute to Jeffery Dahmer..." Well, it's not. It's fucked up, but it's the artist's rendition of someone writhing violently in a psychotic fit. Source: https://www.gallery.ca/en/see/collections/artwork.php?mkey=100798
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The "Boum Boum Room" pic isn't from Comet. It's a club (a total get drunk and fuck each other club, mind you, but a club in DC nonetheless). Very easy to be discredited if you try to point to this and say, "why is this at a family friendly pizza joint?" It's not.
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The 14 and the fish on John PĒD-esta's hands. That photo is attached to a Wikileaks email where he says he's happy about the #14 item on a climate change agenda: protecting the oceans and sea life. Even if there's a double meaning, the fact that there's a simple explanation is enough to ruin your/our credibility if we go repeating that crap.
Point is We should STRONGLY police ourselves and have a sticky post for all debunked garbage, so we don't go ruining our own credibility. Otherwise we'll end up like 9-11 Truthers, fighting to be taken seriously for decades, and a whole lot of kids are going to become "pizza-related"
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WatcherWatcher ago
Wow - lots of reaction to this. It seems like most people get the spirit of what I was saying. Others think I'm being a shithead.
This whole idea came to me because I watched like 3 videos in a row that were really emphasizing and focusing on things that are easy to disprove or just very circumstantial / subjective. I want to be able to convince the people closest to me to take a serious look at this, and I know that if I point them at videos or articles like that (or anything Alex Jones / infowars publishes) they'll roll their eyes and it'll be almost impossible to get them back.
There's research on this site with documents tying people and money to places and organizations that are WAY more compelling leads (imo) and I think would make a jury pay attention. My point was, that we should have an objective team scrutinize the "facts" posted here just as critically as anything else so that if we were presenting them to a jury, we could feel confident that there wouldn't be a "My Cousin Vinnie" moment in the court room, where some overlooked detail in a photo causes reasonable doubt, and these sick fucks walk free.
Whoever said we should have a Wikipedia page format is totally right.
Also re: the sculpture and Dahmer - the thing is, the sculpture depicts fear and agony. That IS some crazy taste in art. Demonstrating Podesta's affinity for art that evokes those emotions is way more compelling than saying it resembles how Jeffery dhamer posed one of his victims. Christ, maybe dhamer was inspired by this artist... Point is, if you look at that dhamer victim photo (it's out there you can find it), yup it's headless and the back is arched. The arms and legs are folded in a particular intentional way that's not at all like this sculpture though. So to me, it's actually a distraction to try to make the connection.
Also, I hate the word "debunk," but....
Shogun77 ago
Some more misinfo being spread:
the logo of Comet only vaguely resembles a butterfly. It's two ping pong rackets similar to the Wimbledon symbol.
The alleged "decoded code words" list (eg pasta = boy) was created by some guy on 4chan, it's not some "official FBI" list as claimed by Alex Jones
John Podesta really is a chef and foodie. Thus, people should be careful about assuming that the food is invariably code. Some of the references are clearly strange though (eg hot dog stand in Hawaii).